2023: 60th Anniversary speculation

[Samurai8472]

(The Doctor should never have been anywhere near the Civil Rights era events, there is just some stuff that Doctor Who shouldn't touch when it comes to historical events)

If we forget the past, we're doomed to repeat it.

The show started out as an educational program traveling to different times and events.

It may have been a slow paced episode with Rosa Parks that will fade into obscurity but at least they tried. That's all that counts

The intention was good. The execution was lacking and it looked like Chibnell was just patting himself on the back.

"Yeah! Aren't we daring?! We're being relevant!"

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[Mr Soak]

The Judoon are police. The show doesn’t have another alien police force. They know the Doctor; sure, they butt heads on occasion but they aren’t out to stop each other. The Judoon fill a particular niche in the show, so why spend time establishing another group that are essentially the same?

 

[kirk55555]

If we forget the past, we're doomed to repeat it.

The show started out as an educational program traveling to different times and events.

It may have been a slow paced episode with Rosa Parks that will fade into obscurity but at least they tried. That's all that counts

The intention was good. The execution was lacking and it looked like Chibnell was just patting himself on the back.

"Yeah! Aren't we daring?! We're being relevant!"

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I'm not saying people shouldn't learn about it, or that its not an important part of history, but Doctor Who is not the place to do it. What's next, Jonestown? 9-11? The Stonewall Riots? Even in an era when the Doctor Who showrunner was actually talented and had a good group of writers to chose from, an American Civil Rights era based episode would have been a terrible idea. They don't have the format, writers, or context to do this. If they wanted to be "educational" (an angle that was pretty much dropped before the 1st Doctor regenerated), then stick to stuff like Marco Polo, or if they really wanted a US based historical episode, why not try the moon landing or something like that? no era of this show was ever equipped to talk about something like Rosa Parks, especially since adding "action" or more sci fi elements to that story is completely inappropriate.

The fact that the episode is shit isn;t the biggest issue, like I said no era of the show, and no one who has ever worked on the show, could have made this work as a Doctor Who episode. The problem is that they were stupid enough to think they could do it at all, especially in an era with no writers capable of writing even an average quality episode with a more benign topic.

 

[The Wormhole]

The intention was good. The execution was lacking and it looked like Chibnell was just patting himself on the back.

More or less my attitude towards the episode too. Yes, I see the importance in teaching the audience some history, and I don't argue the value of teaching about Rosa Parks, but the way they went about it was kind of, meh. They seemed to be walking on egg shells in order to justify why the Doctor is involved without going full tilt to have aliens and time travellers involved in the event, and in the end it came off rather mixed and sloppy. IMO, Demons of the Punjab did a better job getting the Doctor involved in an actual historical event, thus educating the audience about history without having aliens and time travellers active participants in the event in a more natural way that didn't look like they were making the effort to avoid offending anyone. Though even that episode could have been improved if they dropped the alien subplot, which proved rather tedious.

 

[ClayinCA]

What does all this have to do with the 60th anniversary?

 

[Relayer1]

If Chibnail is still in charge, I'm assuming he'll be in the middle of a 5 year hiatus because the guy desperately wants Doctor Who to come out on a schedule that is pathetic even by the usually lethargic schedule of UK TV shows.

Also, only the current Doctor (and if we're at the 14th, maybe Jodie) would show up, because Chibnail hates Doctor Who and refuses to acknowledge anything in the franchise that isn't his bland, boring shit outside of the screwdriver, TARDIS and one Dalek. Throw in maybe a single reference to an event that happened before the 13th Doctor debuted (maybe The Doctor mentions having a robot dog at one point), and you get Chibnail's 60th Anniversary.

Hopefully by 2023 Chibnail has gotten bored of screwing over Doctor Who and has gone back to making mediocre British Mysteries that he can continue to make at the rate of about 10 episodes every 2-5 years, and we can get a real anniversary, although its really too early to be talking about that right now.

Not a fan ?

 

[matthunter]

What does all this have to do with the 60th anniversary?

Because despite proclaiming over and over that he hates Modern Who, Kirk5555 will STILL be here slagging it off in 2023 rather than having moved on with his life.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Considering that we're about two=ish years away from the BBC having discussions internally about how, or even whether, to celebrate the 60th, it's way to early to say what we'll see in 2023. For all we know, it'll be something low-key on television, maybe not even a muliti-Doctor story (shades of the 25th anniversary), and we'll get fanwank out the gazoo from Big Finish.

 

[Redfern]

...we'll get fanwank out the gazoo from Big Finish.

Speaking of BF, has anyone seen the CG animated teaser for the "War Master" production, "Anti-Genesis"? Basically, it takes the "production line" sequence from "Power of the Daleks" and ramps it up to 11...to the 11th power!

(Sorry, I'm at the office so I can't access the clip to link it.)

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Speaking of BF, has anyone seen the CG animated teaser for the "War Master" production, "Anti-Genesis"? Basically, it takes the "production line" sequence from "Power of the Daleks" and ramps it up to 11...to the 11th power!

I had not. It's here.

 

[Redfern]

Glorious, isn't it?!

With the lightning bolt and eye symbol and the last shot of a Dalek looming over a WWI type trench, I assume this somehow ties into "Genesis of the Daleks". Yeah, the title is a not so subtle "hint" as well.

I loved the assembly of the "plunger", revealing robotic "fingers" being sealed with that all too familiar elastic hemisphere.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Wow, that was gorgeous!

 

[DeadmeatDiggory]

Of course, 2020 is the fifteenth anniversary of the reveal.

 

[Steve Roby]

First rule of forums: never click on “Show ignored content.”
Second rule of forums: don’t get annoyed and respond, just block and move on.
Third rule of forums: reread the first two and listen this time.

 

[Paul Weaver]

Considering that we're about two=ish years away from the BBC having discussions internally about how, or even whether, to celebrate the 60th

You think the BBC will still be going then?

 

[The Nth Doctor]

You think the BBC will still be going then?

Why wouldn't they?

 

[Haggis and tatties]

You think the BBC will still be going then?

2020 is going to be a interesting year for the BBC, the biggest thing will be in June when all those 75 plus year old free TV licence viewers now have to pay for their TV licence unless they can prove to the BBC they are over 75 and are on pension credit, and that won't be a clean or smooth transition by any means, so it could get really messy across England and Wales for the BBC if we have multitudes of 75 plus year old pensioners being dragged into court, getting fined, being sent to prision or having balliffs breaking down their doors to remove what meager possesions they have and all for either not knowing about the change, not understanding the change, or just blatantly not wanting to give up their free TV licence.........so it could get real nasty.

 

[Paul Weaver]

Look for the next Daily Express canpaign.

BBC needs serious changes to make the savings. I suggest shutting down daytime TV.

 

[Qonundrum]

How much does it cost to make all of those cinematic quality CGI effects? It's not cheap and if media are whining about the latest XBox not being green because it's gulping 300 watts for a few hours per week (assuming the games don't have periods of less intensive processing at which point wattage use goes down and generally higher wattage PSUs are built better as the load being drawn is far less or so their maximum capacity rating, it's complex) , that's positively nothing compared to arrays of workstations (replaced every 3 years if not sooner because faster processing power renders everything faster and to studios it can make a big difference) churning out 2k to 8k or whatever images at 24FPS 24/7 under maximum load. A single polygon-heavy frame on a single modern PC would take a lot of time to render. Why not go back to what they were doing in 1963 using paper cups and string for alien spacecraft. They don't require as much energy to make and can be reused by un-glueing and re-glueing bits. Of course, that'll look bad on HDTV at 24FPS for a few seconds... but not as bad when ADHDTV really swings in, 24FPS for a fraction of a second would do...

 

[Paul Weaver]

Surely the actual rendering will be done on cloud computing, presumably with spot instances.

Now I agree that the cost of the electricity isn't being apportioned correctly - an international carbon tax (with imports and exports being appropriately charged) is the way to sort that out though.