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2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil

Camren said:
Roger Wilco said:
^^
I agree, it's not about biting being more violent than breaking someone's leg, but it's more deviant in the context of the game.
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In that case I sure hope FIFA severely punish the next footballer to pinch an opponent. And a lifetime ban for any player found guilty of pulling another players hair. These 'deviant' acts are way more sinister than an elbow or headbutt to the face, which result in far softer punishment as already evidenced at this World Cup.
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I think biting is worse, but yeah, such acts would/should be considered "assault" in soccer rules context (I don't know if that's the appropriate translation, it's what the dictionary gives me for "Tätlichkeit" [actually searching some more, the offical translation is "Violent conduct", page 126 here), which is explicitely seperate from "serious foul play" and all manner of other unsporting behaviour, and for good reason.

A player is guilty of violent conduct if he uses excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball.

He is also guilty of violent conduct if he uses excessive force or brutality against a team-mate, spectator, match official or any other person.

Violent conduct may occur either on the field of play or outside its boundaries, whether the ball is in play or not.

Advantage should not be applied in situations involving violent conduct unless there is a clear subsequent opportunity to score a goal. The referee must send off the player guilty of violent conduct when the ball is next out of play.

Referees are reminded that violent conduct often leads to mass confrontation, therefore they must try to avert this with active intervention.

A player, substitute or substituted player who is guilty of violent conduct must be sent off.
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[eta: depending on the sitation elbow or headbutt can be "violent conduct" too of course; but my example was different, you're moving the goalposts]
 
Well done U.S.A., impressive !

American football (soccer if you must) is going to become formidable in the coming years if they continue to develop at this rate...
 
oojason said:
FPAlpha said:
It's not bollocks because there's a difference in my opinion.

Shoving, hard tackling, elbowing and such all fall under the physicality of the sport. There are limits to this and if you go past them your opponent gets the ball, you get warned or sent off the field. While some fouls are needlessly hard (such as charging at the opponent feet first) they fall under the rules of the game which everybody accepts as part of the game and you don't see lawsuits for assault.

What Suarez did went way past the game. This was not fighting for the ball.. he intentionally walked up to a player and just bit him.

Try to justify it any way you want by citing other rough behaviour but this one went far outside of the game.
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I think Camren (and I apologise if I'm wrong) is speaking about deliberately intending to injure an opponent by leg-break, elbow, headbutt? There were a few last night in the French game and throughout this tournament - nowhere near the ball - but haven' seen many posts on asking for players to be banned for it? Should they be?

Watch this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8O6poP9gF4 which is worse? Which deserves a lengthier ban do you think?

Giroud elbow - not the worst in the world - ball no-where near, intent to injure an opponent - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry6glk4ju8o


C'mon the Yanks and Ghana for tonight.
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First video shows a red card worthy foul and possibly a ban for more than one game, no contest (second video has been removed).

Still doesn't compare biting another player (and then falling down and holding his own teeth like it was an accident or even an attack with the shoulder by the other player).

Well.. FIFA apparently agrees with the majority of the people and has banned him for 9 international matches and 4 months of football.

He can't attend training, be in the Uruguay camp or even watch a game in the stadium as a private person. Suits him right.

As to the game USA-Germany.. not very spectacular. Germany controlled the game, made a goal and that was it. Wasn't very exciting but then again smart tactic and i'd rather have a smart game and win then risk it all in a hectic game that swings wildly around.

Fortunately the US did well enough in the previous games so they get to advance into the knockout stages as well (but please control your Rastafari player a bit.. he fouled so many times that another ref might have red carded him after a while or at least sent him off with two yellow cards).

Portugal is out.. can't say i'm disappointed. I don't like Ronaldo at all and think he's a little bit overrated (he is an excellent player but he folds fast when the opponent doesn't let him play his style).
 
Man, the US just looked completely gassed out there against Germany. Apparently they've had to do a ton of traveling and it showed. I was really hoping for a draw, but fortunately Ronaldo decided to give the US a hand on behalf of his half-American son. :p

So it looks like the US will be facing Belgium. Hopefully they'll be better rested for that one. But regardless of how that match turns out, I'm happy enough that they were just able to get out of the group stage. Any further progression after this is gravy, IMO.
 
So what are your predictions for the next round?

My predicted winners in bold:

Brazil - Chile
I don't really expect Chile to win but there's hope. :p

Columbia - Uruguay
Columbia has looked very solid so far and Uruguay will play without the suspended jerk.

Netherlands - Mexico
I still think the Netherlands are bit overrated and Mexico is a tough cookie.

Costa Rica - Greece
I mean, really? Greece?

France - Nigeria
Nigeria hasn't impressed so far.

Germany - Algeria
No-brainer imo.

Argentina - Switzerland
Switzerland just isn't that great...

Belgium - USA
...neither is the US.
 
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I fancy a Brazil France final. If the Brazlians get knocked out before the final there'll be days of national mourning.
 
I'm totally going to be a homer and pick the US to beat Belgium, even though I'm really not expecting it. :p Even if they do, though, I don't see them getting out of the quarterfinals, since they'll more than likely face Argentina there.

Brazil - Chile
Columbia - Uruguay
Netherlands - Mexico
Costa Rica - Greece
France - Nigeria
Germany - Algeria
Argentina - Switzerland
Belgium - USA

As for the finals, I think it'll be France/Netherlands. If I'm reading the brackets correctly, France would have to face Germany in the quarterfinals and Brazil in the semifinals, otherwise I'd have picked one of them over the Netherlands.
 
The knockout stage is pretty favorable on the side of Argentina and the Netherlands, they should be able to make it to the semi final, barring huge upsets.

The other half of the bracket is a lot tougher with Brazil, France, Germany, Chile and Uruguay.
 
I missed that Brazil and France are in the same group. Well that's ruined the whole competition for me then.
 
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