(2011)-2012 NBA Season
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He's got other good defensive players to compensate. I would think it'll only come up on teams with good offensive point guards. So much of the offense currently runs through Kobe. I'm curious to see how they adjust that.
We didn't have much defense from that position (pg) last season so my answer would have to be, probably not. I'm just hoping that Nash at least doesn't have trouble rotating on the perimeter which is -- something. I just hope Mike doesn't screw it up. He needs to back off and allow Kobe, Nash, and Pau, to work it out on the court.
The good thing is that with improved offense, possibly VERY improved, we may not have to depend so much on shutting the other team down in order to get a few more wins. Last season in the playoffs, our point guard wasn't playing any defense and wasn't facilitating offense, which was the worst of all worlds.
So, Ray Allen agrees to sign with Miami. This move helps the Heat, who are desperate for outside shooting, more than it hurts the Celts. They had essentially moved on anyway with the imminent signing of Jason Terry who is a somewhat younger and more spry version of Allen. Ray is getting only Miami's mini-mid of $3 million. This dude was ready to go.
The gossip I've read is that he finally got fed up dealing with the team diva, Rondo, and was tired of the trade rumors.
The NBA, despite Stern's heavy handed stewardship, seems to be getting funner and funner.
The gossip I've read is that he finally got fed up dealing with the team diva, Rondo, and was tired of the trade rumors.
The NBA, despite Stern's heavy handed stewardship, seems to be getting funner and funner.
Although I am a diehard Lakers fan and very happy about the Nash trade, I understand your pain. I'm also a Raiders fan who went through what you're probably going through when Marcus Allen, one of my all time favorite football players, left the Raiders to sign with the Kansas City Cheifs (the only thing worse would have been the Denver Boncos).
For the next 5 or 6 years or however long it was, I died a little bit twice a year when the Raiders and Cheifs played each other.
The relief I felt when Marcus finally retired cannot be minimized. You will likely know the same pain for a while -- followed one day by the same relief.
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Yeah, I've been following it from the Sixers end as the rumors rose. Pretty massive trade both in significance (Howard to Lakers) and in number of players and teams. I would have thought Pau Gasol would leave LA for this. I also thought they would wait until after the Olympics ended.
Lots of teams will players they just couldn't keep (Howard in Orlando, Iguodala in Philly) and the Lakers seem to be there to take advantage of this.
Lots of teams will players they just couldn't keep (Howard in Orlando, Iguodala in Philly) and the Lakers seem to be there to take advantage of this.
6ers essentially turned Iguadala into the second best center in the league and he is only 24.
The key for the Lakers is that we didn't have to give up anything other than Bynum, making it Bynum pretty much straight up for the best center in the league, as it should be. Giving up Pau too would have been too much for Dwight.
The key for the Lakers is that we didn't have to give up anything other than Bynum, making it Bynum pretty much straight up for the best center in the league, as it should be. Giving up Pau too would have been too much for Dwight.
Yeah. He's still inconsistent at times, but it's still great for them. The Sixers have a ton of mid-sized guard/small forwards like Iguodala but need a good big man. Elton Brand never worked out for them, so hopefully Bynum will stay the Bynum of LA.
It's a great deal because they essentially upgrade at a position at no cost. But that's not how it normally is. Pau is aging and has a big contract. He actually was offered as part of this deal, but Orlando turned him down.
LA looks to be the Miami of 2012-2013... Here's hoping for no catwalk struts. 
A team with Gasol, Nash, and Howard would be very good by itself without that Kobe Bryant dude.
Yes, pretty much as I thought; Pau was never a part of the trade discussions. Trading Bynum AND Pau was a dealbreaker for the Lakers.
Kupchak's quote from Kevin Ding of the OC Register at the Lakers' press conference today:
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/howard-368239-lakers-going.html
"Kupchak said Gasol wasn't part of talks to depart with Bynum..."
Kupchak's quote from Kevin Ding of the OC Register at the Lakers' press conference today:
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/howard-368239-lakers-going.html
"Kupchak said Gasol wasn't part of talks to depart with Bynum..."
They have Nash and Bryant. With Howard, that would have been a great deal even without Gasol. Obviously, the Lakers are happy to take a deal without giving up Gasol, but if any team could afford to overpay for the best center in the league, it would be the Lakers.
Not really a matter of being able to afford it, it just would not have been justified. Dwight's the best center in the league but we already had a pretty good one in Bynum. As good as he is, Dwight isn't enough of an upgrade over Bynum to be worth both Drew and Pau.
If the deal had included a mandate that Pau be included, we would have just said no and continued with Drew and still been in very good shape. One of the reasons we were able to get the deal we wanted was because we weren't desperate for Dwight like say, New Jersey was.
If you're the GM in Orlando, how do you explain this one to your fan base?
You traded the best center in the league for a bag of basketballs and sandwich. They couldn't swing Bynum or Gasol out of the deal.
Afflalo and Harrington are average players, I've never heard of the other two guys. Plus those draft picks they got aren't likely to be too high. The Lakers are always in contention, and Philly and Denver are playoff teams.
You traded the best center in the league for a bag of basketballs and sandwich. They couldn't swing Bynum or Gasol out of the deal.
Afflalo and Harrington are average players, I've never heard of the other two guys. Plus those draft picks they got aren't likely to be too high. The Lakers are always in contention, and Philly and Denver are playoff teams.
