With so many established hits fading, the next couple of seasons could see significant changes in the network rankings. Fox is likely to remain in a good position, but CBS and ABC need some new hits or else NBC could gain on them.
2011-12 pilot buzz thread
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No doubt FOX will be proped up by Idol/Xactor in the coming years but your right CBS and ABC are in the dangerous transition period NBC hit several years ago and failed to overcome. ABC have the advantage of DWTS that props up two nights so I doubt they will fall hard as NBC did but they will be the main target of NBC to overtake. CBS will always have enough viewers but the problem is the demo but CBS are actually trying to get advertisers to pay more attention to 50+ viewers. The argruements kind of go like this...
CBS say they watch more TV, actually focus soley on the show while its on and have more of the nations wealth.
The AD people say they are generally less influenced by ads due to the kind of products sold by these Advertises. Bascially young people spend more money on things you don't need
CBS say they watch more TV, actually focus soley on the show while its on and have more of the nations wealth.
The AD people say they are generally less influenced by ads due to the kind of products sold by these Advertises. Bascially young people spend more money on things you don't need
I guess NBC is taking a "throw it alot at the wall and see what sticks" appoarch, certainly as good away as any to find good new shows, the problem being of course will they give shows the time they need to really bed in, or will just see a show start to fail, and move onto the next thing.
Or longer than that, but rebuilding a badly damaged brand is a big project.
Not at all. That's often all networks do, but NBC's approach is more targetted than that this year. The pilots they've picked up largely fall into the same general type, calculated to appeal to a young, upscale audience that can give them a focused brand image again.
It's obvious enough that I figured out what they were doing just based on their pickups before I read this article that confirmed it.
NBC's plan to wow advertisers on Monday with their upscale quality is probably what really doomed Wonder Woman. Even if the pilot isn't the mess its reputed to be, that's just not the type of series that fits in with their new strategy. Grimm was lucky to squeak in. Awake is much more the kind of sf/f show that fits - a psychological thriller more than a genre story.
It's a risky strategy because it means they need to lure back exactly the same type of viewers that have abandoned broadcast for cable. But it's a risk that someone has to take, and NBC is the most desperate so they're the obvious candidate.
They probably expect to flop in the fall
NBC was confident enough to cancel Heroes for the Event and L&O for LA.
How did that work out for them?
as I said earlier in this thread, I cant work out why L&O was cancelled, and that if NBC keeps up at this rate the only L&O on TV, will be Law & Order: London.
They probably expect to flop in the fall
NBC was confident enough to cancel Heroes for the Event and L&O for LA.
How did that work out for them?
Law & Order LA failures where its own doing, the show was doing ok-ish before there long long retooling. They would of been better to let it run a short 13 episode season then re-tool it for season 2 in the fall...
To bring it back several months later + Monday nights against Castle + The virtual non existance lead in with already built in fanbase SVU getting TBL as lead in partner strikes to me NBC had little faith in the retool and now have an excuse to get rid of it.
When CI & SVU end, expect the Law & Order franchise to end, there will be no more shows.
To bring it back several months later + Monday nights against Castle + The virtual non existance lead in with already built in fanbase SVU getting TBL as lead in partner strikes to me NBC had little faith in the retool and now have an excuse to get rid of it.
When CI & SVU end, expect the Law & Order franchise to end, there will be no more shows.
They probably expect to flop in the fall
NBC was confident enough to cancel Heroes for the Event and L&O for LA.
How did that work out for them?
That was the old guard. The new guys want their chance to flop in all new ways.
CBS has picked up three more shows: The 2-2 (formerly called Rookies, which is a better title), Unforgettable (formerly called The Rememberer - good change there), and the half-hour comedy How To Be a Gentleman.
CBS has picked up A Gifted Man, the previously untitled series from Susannah Grant about a doctor, played by Patrick Wilson, whose ex-wife dies and guides him from the afterlife.
That doesn't sound very promising. It vaguely reminds me of that film a few years ago with Harrison Ford and his wife dies in the jungles of some third world country trying to bring medical care. She was played by Susannah Thompson, VOY's Borg Queen and DS9's Lenara Kahn. I think it was called Dragonfly
It was called Dragonfly, but it starred Kevin Costner, not Harrison Ford.
CBS didn't have much to pick up this year, but they managed to greenlight both the shows I wanted to watch (How To Be a Gentleman and Person of Interest). The only network with a perfect pilot season record!
CBS has renewed CSI: NY and cancelled Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior.
Got say I am surprised because the CM spinoff got higher demo ratings than the likely to be renewed "The Good Wife" and not even giving them a 9-13 fall pickup seems harsh but thats CBS.
I wonder if CSI:NY will get a full 22 episode season.
That's because this past year has been terrible. Nothing deserved renewal. I'd have taken a machete to all five networks' lineups (including everything they renewed.)
Bobs Burgers has survived, I didnt think FOX would ever find another show for Animation Domination, at least one that wasnt realted to Family Guy or The Simpsons.
That's because this past year has been terrible. Nothing deserved renewal. I'd have taken a machete to all five networks' lineups (including everything they renewed.)
Admittedly I dont know if that should be seen as a good or a bad thing.
The cancellation rate for freshman scripted shows is generally 65-70%. This season the cancellation rates for freshman scripted shows on the Big 4 were:
ABC: 77.8% (7 of 9 freshman shows cancelled, Body of Evidence and Happy Endings being the two renewals)
CBS: 62.5% (5 of 8 freshman shows cancelled, Blue Bloods, Hawaii Five-O, and Mike & Molly being the three renewals)
Fox: 75% (6 of 8 freshman shows cancelled, Bob's Burgers and Raising Hope being the two renewals)
NBC: 91.6% (11 of 12 freshman shows cancelled, Harry's Law being the only renewal; two of their shows picked up for the season didn't air and will be summer burn-offs)
That's an overall cancellation rate for freshman scripted shows of 78.4% across the Big 4 combined.
ABC: 77.8% (7 of 9 freshman shows cancelled, Body of Evidence and Happy Endings being the two renewals)
CBS: 62.5% (5 of 8 freshman shows cancelled, Blue Bloods, Hawaii Five-O, and Mike & Molly being the three renewals)
Fox: 75% (6 of 8 freshman shows cancelled, Bob's Burgers and Raising Hope being the two renewals)
NBC: 91.6% (11 of 12 freshman shows cancelled, Harry's Law being the only renewal; two of their shows picked up for the season didn't air and will be summer burn-offs)
That's an overall cancellation rate for freshman scripted shows of 78.4% across the Big 4 combined.
