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2011-12 pilot buzz thread

I think The Dark Tower is a miniseries, telling part of a story in between the movies? So that's another outlier - networks have given up on miniseries. In fact, HBO seems to be the only place they appear anymore.
Some other cable channels, like Syfy and Starz, are also still making miniseries. And the broadcast networks are looking to get back into event miniseries. NBC is developing Wicked as a mini, while ABC has picked up the rights to an internationally-produced four-hour mini about the Titanic (not that it seems a good idea to revisit that topic).
 
^ They are most likely showing the Titanic miniseries in almost exactly one year for they 100th anniversary of the sinking.

And Community had some shout outs to The Cape. "It will run six seasons and a movie!". :lol:
 
:nyah::angryrazz::nyah::angryrazz: are serious on the cape ? or are you just messing with those who liked the show.

BURN NOTICE is a great show and a great cast. looking forward to this next season. loved the sam axe movie pure bruce campbell. love that guy. Looking forward to stephen king's dark tower series both big screene movies and television series. I would love to see his american vampire comic series be made into a television movie or series.
 
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The Dark Tower is actually supposed to be a long running TV show, but no one really knows how it will work with the movies.

I think the whole thing will be a disaster and never fully get made.

The movies will probably do well, but the ratings on the TV series will be disappointing and if it isn't planned as a miniseries, it will end up as one. And casting Javier Bardem as the lead strikes me as problematic. An actor with a thriving movie career is unlikely to want to get tied down to the grind of a TV series. They might even have to recast the character for TV. (In which case, I know the perfect guy - Jon Bernthal from The Walking Dead - a terrific actor, looks a lot like Bardem - and doing one cable series isn't going to take up all his time so he'd have time for another show).
 
PS, for those interested in USA Network, here's a story on their strategy and future plans.

It's fascinating to see just how rigid they are about the formula - brand filter? Fruit bowl??? :rommie: The sky must always be blue and the camera must never shake! These people sound like Nazis. The article quibbles a little about the formula being too formulaic, but unless ratings start to weaken, USA has no motive to overturn the fruit bowl which is full of golden apples for them (to stretch a metaphor).

USA network, once known for a bland but reliable mishmash of wrestling and "Murder, She Wrote" reruns, has in recent years built an identity defined by sunny, optimistic original series. Shows like "Burn Notice," "Covert Affairs" and "Royal Pains" have helped make it the most-watched cable channel for the past five years.

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In June, USA will premiere "Necessary Roughness," a new series about a scorned Long Island wife and psychiatrist who becomes a therapist to NFL players, and "Suits," a buddy legal drama about a genius slacker and a high-powered New York attorney. It is casting "Over/Under," about a Wall Street trader with a gambling problem, and recently shot pilots for "Common Law," about a couple of bickering L.A. cops, and "Eden," about a concierge at a New York luxury hotel who caters to guests' every whim.

USA greenlights only shows that go through what network executives call a "brand filter." That means nothing gets the go-ahead unless it is "aspirational, blue skies, upbeat, optimistic and character-driven," says Bonnie Hammer, chairman of NBC Universal Cable Entertainment and Cable Studios.

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USA is so specific about the look and feel of its shows that it tells producers to make sure there is a "fruit bowl" in each potentially drab scene. This is metaphor: It could literally mean a bowl of fruit or, more often, a splash of color, as in a scene in "White Collar" with a red office chair in an otherwise monotone room or a bold-colored billboard outside a window, against an always-blue sky. In the USA playbook, shaky hand-held-camera shots, a favorite of grittier shows like TNT's "Southland," are verboten.
And still MORE prognostications (focusing just on shows that interest me, there's far more at the links):

ABC

Looks good for Hallelujah, Once Upon a Time (which sounds much better than I'd thought it would be) and The River (which sounds like another Lost-wannabee-instaflop). Poe is possible.

CBS

No mention of Person of Interest. The lack of news about that show is worrysome, considering how tough CBS is for pilots anyway.

FOX

Exit Strategy
is a "shoo-in," Locke & Key "probable" but "may be too high brow" for FOX viewers, which just makes me want to see it more. Touch possible for midseason but wow, it sounds much worse than I'd hoped. Alcatraz not reviewed, but still cited as likely.

CW

Yes to Awakenings (gak! :D and the reviewer agrees with me that Titus Welliver will be the saving grace of the show) and The Secret Circle.

NBC

Yes to Wonder Woman (a "train wreck"), Smash and 17th Precinct. The latter doesn't get a rave review and there's a bit of new info - the baddies are terrorists named Stoics who want to replace magic with "the tyranny of science" - I dunno, sounds like a conflict that will be hard to pull off in a graceful, non-ham-handed way. The reviewer is also skeptical that a fantasy-based CSI will work on broadcast, and I gotta agree there.

Playboy (lukewarm review)and REM (best script of the season) are "likely." Reconstruction is "doubtful," which is too bad because it sounds better than I'd expected.

If A Mann's World sees the light of day, everyone should check it out - it's "the worst pilot of the season." :D

No mention of Grimm or Brave New World.

Overall, I think the reviewer might not be taking into account NBC's desperate need for fodder. "Likely" translates to "yes," and "unlikely" translates to "possible."
 
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The Dark Tower is actually supposed to be a long running TV show, but no one really knows how it will work with the movies.

I think the whole thing will be a disaster and never fully get made.

The movies will probably do well, but the ratings on the TV series will be disappointing and if it isn't planned as a miniseries, it will end up as one. And casting Javier Bardem as the lead strikes me as problematic. An actor with a thriving movie career is unlikely to want to get tied down to the grind of a TV series.
The TV element of The Dark Tower will be miniseries length, a six-hour series in the case of the TV show that will air between the first and second movies (if all goes according to plan). That first six-hour TV series would be the only one to feature Javier Bardem. If there's a second TV element between the second and third movies it'll be a prequel focusing on the character when he's young.
 
USA greenlights only shows that go through what network executives call a "brand filter." That means nothing gets the go-ahead unless it is "aspirational, blue skies, upbeat, optimistic and character-driven," says Bonnie Hammer, chairman of NBC Universal Cable Entertainment and Cable Studios.

I've always had a big problem with this Bonnie Hammer. Why does she sound so familiar? I don't remember what exactly she did before to make me dislike her style. Any help? No wonder NBC Universal Cable channels (Syfy, USA, Sleuth) are so unremarkable.
 
USA greenlights only shows that go through what network executives call a "brand filter." That means nothing gets the go-ahead unless it is "aspirational, blue skies, upbeat, optimistic and character-driven," says Bonnie Hammer, chairman of NBC Universal Cable Entertainment and Cable Studios.
I've always had a big problem with this Bonnie Hammer. Why does she sound so familiar? I don't remember what exactly she did before to make me dislike her style. Any help? No wonder NBC Universal Cable channels (Syfy, USA, Sleuth) are so unremarkable.

She's fairly vilified within the Sci-Fi community because she was first in charge of the Sci-Fi channel before getting promoted to being in charge of all of NBC's cable stations.

She's gone on record in interviews saying she doesn't like space-based stories and many Farscape fans took that as the reason why the show got canceled.
 
Apparently Bad Robot is good at keeping its scripts secret, which explains the lack of info about Alcatraz and Person of Interest. I was wondering if the latter was just getting lost in the shuffle, but in this case no news isn't bad news...

Edit: here's a fun site I ran across that reviews pilots from the lesbian perspective(??) Wonder Woman bad, Charlie's Angels, Playboy and Pan Am good. Once Upon a Time gets more praise, 17th Precinct is confusing.

Halleluljah has a definite religious component. (Which I think could be a bonus, as long as it doesn't descend to Touched by an Angel sap - Terry O'Quinn wouldn't allow that, would he?)

Here's an interesting blog from Zenith Media, an ad agency. Since the ad agencies are ultimately the folks networks try to please, they're probably the best sources of accurate predictions although of course they tend to be closed mouthed.
 
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Yes to Wonder Woman (a "train wreck"), Smash and 17th Precinct. The latter doesn't get a rave review and there's a bit of new info - the baddies are terrorists named Stoics who want to replace magic with "the tyranny of science" - I dunno, sounds like a conflict that will be hard to pull off in a graceful, non-ham-handed way. The reviewer is also skeptical that a fantasy-based CSI will work on broadcast, and I gotta agree there.

17th Precinct has a Kings vibe. It is a VERY much an alternative world, where there is NO science. Everything is magic based. I think that might be the harder sell than the "tyranny of science."
 
USA greenlights only shows that go through what network executives call a "brand filter." That means nothing gets the go-ahead unless it is "aspirational, blue skies, upbeat, optimistic and character-driven," says Bonnie Hammer, chairman of NBC Universal Cable Entertainment and Cable Studios.
I've always had a big problem with this Bonnie Hammer. Why does she sound so familiar? I don't remember what exactly she did before to make me dislike her style. Any help? No wonder NBC Universal Cable channels (Syfy, USA, Sleuth) are so unremarkable.

She's fairly vilified within the Sci-Fi community because she was first in charge of the Sci-Fi channel before getting promoted to being in charge of all of NBC's cable stations.

She's gone on record in interviews saying she doesn't like space-based stories and many Farscape fans took that as the reason why the show got canceled.

She is the devil, and I will never forgive her for what she did. :klingon:
 
Yes to Wonder Woman (a "train wreck"), Smash and 17th Precinct. The latter doesn't get a rave review and there's a bit of new info - the baddies are terrorists named Stoics who want to replace magic with "the tyranny of science" - I dunno, sounds like a conflict that will be hard to pull off in a graceful, non-ham-handed way. The reviewer is also skeptical that a fantasy-based CSI will work on broadcast, and I gotta agree there.

17th Precinct has a Kings vibe. It is a VERY much an alternative world, where there is NO science. Everything is magic based. I think that might be the harder sell than the "tyranny of science."

Is the Earth still round in this world?
 
Yes to Wonder Woman (a "train wreck"), Smash and 17th Precinct. The latter doesn't get a rave review and there's a bit of new info - the baddies are terrorists named Stoics who want to replace magic with "the tyranny of science" - I dunno, sounds like a conflict that will be hard to pull off in a graceful, non-ham-handed way. The reviewer is also skeptical that a fantasy-based CSI will work on broadcast, and I gotta agree there.

17th Precinct has a Kings vibe. It is a VERY much an alternative world, where there is NO science. Everything is magic based. I think that might be the harder sell than the "tyranny of science."

The premise says there is science in that world - as a threat. Somehow, the world can run on magic, or be flipped around to run on science, which is what the bad guys want. How it is possible to have a world where the laws on which it is based can change, I haven't a clue, probably will just be part of the premise and we have to accept it's the way things are.

My hunch is that 17th Precinct will do the usual post-premiere swan dive, but it might turn out to be more watchable than Kings, which was severely hampered by having a block of wood cast in the lead role. One thing we know for sure about 17th Precinct, the cast can carry a show.

NYMag's Top 20 Pilots.

More praise for Once Upon a Time! I'd written that show off as too likely to be silly muck, like Skiffy's Haven. But I've yet to read a bad word about it.

Locke & Key sounds like a lock for pickup! :bolian: Ditto for Smash. But Brave New World might not be so lucky. :klingon: Person of Interest is 50/50. The reviewer apparently wants to see Poe for the same reason I do. :D Wonder Woman and Grace get more heckles...
 
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Ringer, CBS

WHAT IT’S ABOUT: Sarah Michelle Gellar plays twins, one who takes over the other's identity as a rich Manhattanite, even though both are being targeted by hit men.
WHY WE'RE EXCITED: Sarah Michelle Gellar returns to TV playing twins, one posh and one a former prostitute, both running from hit men. In other words, Buffy's ass-kicking ability meets a plot twist straight out of All My Children, with some Sex and the City Manhattan lifestyle porn thrown in for good measure.
SUPPORTING EVIDENCE: A taste of the cold open: One of the twins, beaten, bloody, nearly unconscious and "stunningly beautiful," lays there after having been beaten up by a masked man. As he raises his hand to hit her "glazed eyes flutter, on the verge of passing out. But not before uttering, 'You have the wrong girl.'"
LIKELIHOOD OF SUCCESS: CBS has got action procedurals (Hawaii 5-0) and its got a serious drama about complicated women (The Good Wife), Ringer could be where the two meet, a serialized action-drama that's got more through plot than any of CBS's franchises, and more froth and fistfights than Wife. Like Rookies it's a twist, but not too big of one, on what's worked for CBS so far.

I hope this makes it. :bolian: Wanna see SMG back in action on TV. :p
 
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