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2008 Olympics!

Is anyone else bugged by the fact that Phelps didn't compete in any of the heats or semis for that? He's just swimming in the final. Seems a bit lame to me.

No, becasue that's how it's always done. the second fastest-qualifier in the trials swims the preliminary, and the winner of the individual event swims in the final. In fact, two years ago, Phelps was the second-fastest qualifier in the trials for the butterfly leg, and swam in the Prelims, and then he beat Crocker in the actual Olympic race, giving him the right to swim in the final as well, but he gave up his spot to Crocker to allow him the chance at the Gold.

Agreed. Interesting, only 4 of his gold medals have come from "straight" events, as 4 from medleys and four from relays.

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Interesting, it would be interesting to see how he went, if did another freestyle event (either 100m or 400m), but probably would have to drop one of the medleys, as it would have been busier for him.
I would be a bit more impressed by Phelps if he had been in the 1500 meter freestyle.
How is that interesting? He has to swim every event, not just 8? He's not a long-distance swimmer; that's an entirely different specialty.

^ Even if he did make it to that final, I think Grant Hackett will win. Will be interesting to see if Phelps can back up in 4 years time, and win in any of his individual events.

You mean like he did this year, backing up his wins in those events in 2004? :vulcan:

He has already said that he's planning on changing focus in training to sprints after this year, becasue he wants to do something new.

It seems most of the top swimmers didn't swim the heats either in the relays.
Because that's how it's done. It both a) gives more people a chance to comete and medal (since the prelim swimmers get medals as well) and b) reduces the number of overall swims for everyone, allowing them to remain in top form.

Longevity is the key to a great athlete which is a large par of why I think all of this grandeur about Phelps being the greatest athlete ever is ludicrous. Get back to me in 12, 16 years and then we'll talk.
So, in 16 years, he would be 39, and would have competed in 7 Olympics (this is his 3rd). Which no swimmer has ever even come close to. Whata completely fucking unreasonable standard to set. :lol:

Well done Phelps, I just watched his race on the BBC, it was incredibly close.

It was, and the other guy basically committed and error by going for the wall too early. If he had had a decent finish, he would have won, so it was a combination of luck and Phelps putting himself in the position to take advantage of the error.

However, I have to say that as I Brit I much more enjoyed watching Rebecca Adlington's race on the BBC. Olympic Record in the heat, World Record in the final by 2.12 seconds and finishing 6 seconds ahead of the silver medallist. Fantastic achievement by her. :D
Well done for her! She broke the oldest standing record in swimming too. :bolian:
 
I just watched Men's Water Polo -- the US upset Croatia (apparently, it's epic) and the Croatian team looked...vaguely gay. The mustache, the chest hair, the helmets and the speedos.

Trampoline is on now -- and really? This is sport. Almost as surreal as racewalking as a sport.

As for Phelps, also take into account his dominance between 2004-2008 in other competitive events and there is a pretty good case for his dominance -- the Olympics just cements it for the general public who only pays attention ever 4 years. I understand the media fatigue (cause NBC has been ridiculous) but his achievements tower among many in his field today and put among the all-time elite.


-nobody
 
Originally Posted by Emh
Is anyone else bugged by the fact that Phelps didn't compete in any of the heats or semis for that? He's just swimming in the final. Seems a bit lame to me.


No, becasue that's how it's always done. the second fastest-qualifier in the trials swims the preliminary, and the winner of the individual event swims in the final. In fact, two years ago, Phelps was the second-fastest qualifier in the trials for the butterfly leg, and swam in the Prelims, and then he beat Crocker in the actual Olympic race, giving him the right to swim in the final as well, but he gave up his spot to Crocker to allow him the chance at the Gold.

Thank you. I was pretty sure that's how it was done, and I remember him giving up a spot to Crocker. I'm saddened at this urge some have to put Phelps down. What did he do wrong? Train like a slave to accomplish his goals? Seems pretty admirable to me. How often do we chastise young people for being lazy and wasting their gifts? God gavd him a body that was perfectly designed for swimming and he took advantage of his blessings.
 
Phelps isn't controlling the media. Phelps hasn't annointed himself the greatest athlete of all time. Phelps isn't pushing his way on to the relay squads. The best swimmer gets that honor. He's wanted on the relay teams. The man's getting the acclaim because he's done the work, not because his publicist put a $100 dollar bill in a few dozen journalists' pockets. He's trained in an ungodly number of events. He's displayed the skills. He won several gold four years ago and he's upped the ante four years later to become the the most decorated olympian of all times in terms of gold....but he's not great unless he does it again in 2012 and 2016? How come Phelps has to be great in four straight olympiads to deserve hype?

Come on. Be fair.
I never said I had a problem with Phelps:
Seriously, I'm so sick of Michael Phelps. Well, not him, but the hype built around him. I'm going to be very happy when he's done with tomorrow's relay race.

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Is anyone else bugged by the fact that Phelps didn't compete in any of the heats or semis for that? He's just swimming in the final. Seems a bit lame to me.
No, becasue that's how it's always done. the second fastest-qualifier in the trials swims the preliminary, and the winner of the individual event swims in the final. In fact, two years ago, Phelps was the second-fastest qualifier in the trials for the butterfly leg, and swam in the Prelims, and then he beat Crocker in the actual Olympic race, giving him the right to swim in the final as well, but he gave up his spot to Crocker to allow him the chance at the Gold.
Yeah, I knew about Phelps giving up his spot for Crocker. I meant (and I admit I wasn't clear on this) that I think it's weird (or lame, take your pick) that it's not the same team the whole way through in any situation, rather they're given the option to switch swimmers.

Longevity is the key to a great athlete which is a large par of why I think all of this grandeur about Phelps being the greatest athlete ever is ludicrous. Get back to me in 12, 16 years and then we'll talk.
So, in 16 years, he would be 39, and would have competed in 7 Olympics (this is his 3rd). Which no swimmer has ever even come close to. Whata completely fucking unreasonable standard to set. :lol:
Okay, I thought this was his only second Olympics. Change that to 8, 12 years. I'm covering five Olympics because I remember one of the commentators (not necessarily in swimming but possibly during some other event) mention someone who had won gold (or maybe it was just medals in general) in five Olympics.

Either way, I still think longevity is still a key factor in calling an athlete great.
 
How many Olympics do swimmers usually compete in? I honestly have no idea. I know there's a 39 year old this year (I think in swimming, but I can't really remember), but that seems like the exception, not the rule.
 
^Emh, the British rower Sir Steven Redgrave competed at five Olympics and won five Golds and a bronze.
 
So will I have to get through Trampoline the same time History is occuring tonight just to get to damn Michael Phelps? :rolleyes:

Good lord, even I could do Trampoline and maybe even get a medal. How did this become an olympic sport. How I wish we had sports like Rally Car, Any of the Moto X (Step-up) sports from the X-Games, or street skateboarding or something. Anything of that is so much better than Trampoline.
 
^Emh, the British rower Sir Steven Redgrave competed at five Olympics and won five Golds and a bronze.

The key word there being rower.

Key word as in rowing is a tough sport?

SI has put up the frame-by-frame of Phelps' finish in the 100m butterfly. It's pretty incredible to see. Media be damned, how did he pull this off?


-nobody

Cavic glided (I guess he thought he'd definitely got it seeing as Phelps was definitely behind for the entire race), Phelps threw himself at the wall.
 
Mhm, but winning medals at 5 Olympics is extraordinary in any case - competing on a world class level for 20 years, is something that only few people can achieve in any sport.
 
^Emh, the British rower Sir Steven Redgrave competed at five Olympics and won five Golds and a bronze.

The key word there being rower.

Key word as in rowing is a tough sport?

SI has put up the frame-by-frame of Phelps' finish in the 100m butterfly. It's pretty incredible to see. Media be damned, how did he pull this off?


-nobody

Cavic glided (I guess he thought he'd definitely got it seeing as Phelps was definitely behind for the entire race), Phelps threw himself at the wall.

Winners find a way to win. It doesn't seem like anything can stop Phelps now.
 
Is there any way on God's green earth that someone on the West Coast of the US can watch the Phelps race live?
 
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