Poll 2008 Detroit Lions (0-16) vs 2017 Cleveland Browns
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I'd say the Lions, since this years' Browns are so much more experienced at tanking.
4-12, 5-11, 4-12, 7-9, 3-13, 1-15, 0-14 (so far). The worst part is, they can't make a #1 pick for anything, so it's a complete waste of time. The Browns should be contracted right back out of the NFL.
4-12, 5-11, 4-12, 7-9, 3-13, 1-15, 0-14 (so far). The worst part is, they can't make a #1 pick for anything, so it's a complete waste of time. The Browns should be contracted right back out of the NFL.
The Lions went winless because Matt Millen managed to somehow be an even worse GM than a color commentator.
The Browns are owned by a literal criminal who drafted Johnny Football because a hobo told him to. And Josh Rosen is now making noise about staying in school for his senior year because he doesn't want anything to do with the Browns. I think it's clear which team is a bigger joke.
The Browns are owned by a literal criminal who drafted Johnny Football because a hobo told him to. And Josh Rosen is now making noise about staying in school for his senior year because he doesn't want anything to do with the Browns. I think it's clear which team is a bigger joke.
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Which just goes to show how good they are at sucking if the Bears can beat them.
According to fivethirtyeight, Browns have 1202, Lions had 1213. If you put stock in that website Browns are slightly worse.
I was looking over their stats between each. I'd say their offenses are about the same. Browns have a better defense but they also turn the ball over a lot more.
Average score of the 2008 Detroit games was 32.3125 to 16.75 or a loss by 15.5625 pts
Average score of the 2017 Cleveland games is currently 25.4666 to 14 or a loss by 11.4667 pts
Cleveland also went into overtime games twice. Probably leaning toward the Browns being the better team
Average score of the 2008 Detroit games was 32.3125 to 16.75 or a loss by 15.5625 pts
Average score of the 2017 Cleveland games is currently 25.4666 to 14 or a loss by 11.4667 pts
Cleveland also went into overtime games twice. Probably leaning toward the Browns being the better team
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I think Detroit had the tougher schedule.
https://www.stampedeblue.com/2009/1/1/706808/final-strength-of-schedule
lions 3rd toughest schedule - 0.5354
https://www.fantasyindex.com/2017/12/19/scheduletron/updated-strength-of-schedule
browns (up to week 15) - .473
http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/cle/cleveland-browns <-- brown stats
http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/det/year/2008 <-- lion stats
Detroit leads the series 19-5 against the browns http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/detroit-lions/teamvsteam?opp=8
http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/det/year/2008 <-- lion stats
Detroit leads the series 19-5 against the browns http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/detroit-lions/teamvsteam?opp=8
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Browns have now gone to 0-16 as well. I compared the stats of the two teams below.
Detroit has a better quarterback and passing game and passing defense. Browns have a better rushing game and rushing defense. Browns turn the ball over more. Detroit has a better field goal team. Browns have a better kick off return team. Detroit has a better defense against the kick off. Browns are better at punt returns and defending against punt returns.
Detroit has a better quarterback and passing game and passing defense. Browns have a better rushing game and rushing defense. Browns turn the ball over more. Detroit has a better field goal team. Browns have a better kick off return team. Detroit has a better defense against the kick off. Browns are better at punt returns and defending against punt returns.
Lions. Didn't that team have a lot of really close games that could have bounced their way?
On average the Browns were a field goal closer to winning than the Lions and went into overtime twice. But Detroit had a more difficult schedule too. It's basically the Browns with an okay team but a crappy quarterback against Detroit with an okay quarterback but a crappy team.
I checked this site out, figured the numbers would have been updated after the Browns finished their season. It gives Detroit 1241 after they finished their 2008 season and the Browns they gave 1200 after they finished this season.
and consistently better than the Browns each corresponding week
Detroit
start- Detroit:1440 Browns:1336
week 1- Detroit:1415 Browns:1330
week 2- Detroit:1394 Browns:1321
week 3- Detroit:1372 Browns:1315
week 4- Detroit:bye Browns:1290
week 5- Detroit:1349 Browns:1281
week 6- Detroit:1345 Browns:1272
week 7- Detroit:1335 Browns:1263
week 8- Detroit:1324 Browns:1255
week 9- Detroit:1320 Browns:bye
week 10- Detroit:1301 Browns:1250
week 11- Detroit:1296 Browns:1239
week 12- Detroit:1283 Browns:1232
week 13- Detroit:1273 Browns:1227
week 14- Detroit:1267 Browns:1219
week 15- Detroit:1264 Browns:1211
week 16- Detroit:1247 Browns:1202
week 17- Detroit:1241 Browns:1200