Re: %18 of Americans think Obama is a Muslim, and other disturbing fac
You've been listening to too much Al Qaeda propaganda (they actually worked the line about Iraqi deaths).
Doesn't change the fact that it's still true.
I know you believe the Al Qaeda storyline with all your heart, but that doesn't make it
true.
Saddam kicks off a war with Iran to seize their oilfields. It's a draw costing about a million lives. His country in debt, he invades Kuwait. We kick him out. Then, instead of invading the whole country of Iraq, we, forty or so allies, and the UN placed his country under sanctions so he couldn't keep threatening his neighbors and building WMD's (which he was doing, which is why Bill Clinton bombed him). Under those sanctions the Iraqis could get food and medicine in large amounts - BUT Saddam controlled the distribution and used his control to continue killing his people. He would even kill them in large numbers to stage baby funerals for the press.
You suggest that somehow the US, not Saddam's Ba'athist party, was responsible for deaths that
they inflicted directly for the purposes of controlling the population through fear and starvation. You don't even make the more logical argument that the deaths were caused by the UN. No, you just blame America for murders that our enemy was committing.
Please explain how that argument works outside of an Al Qaeda pamphlet operation.
Please explain how we, and we alone, could be responsible for murders being committed by Saddam while not being equally and solely responsible for the Nazi Holocaust, because the logic and situation is exactly the same.
Saddam wanted to kill large segments of his population and keep the rest intimidated. Hitler wanted to kill large segments of his population and keep the rest intimidated. In both cases we eventually invaded and toppled the regime, and in neither case did we have any other available mechanism of forcing the enemy leadership to stop their killing.
There are also the hundreds of thousands of innocent deaths caused by our invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. They clearly put the higher body count on our hands instead of theirs.
So there wasn't anyone in Iraq or Afghanistan who had
anything to do with ending up at war with the United States? Nobody there at all?
The only times Saddam gassed people, we were still supporting him.
And when we found out he gassed people we told him we couldn't give him any meaningful support. All his weapons came from France, China, and Russia. All his chemical weapons equipment came from Europe. But again, like an Al Qaeda propagandist,
you blame the US for murders committed by Saddam and Muslim fanatics.
Imam Rauf, Saddam, Al Qaeda, and you want to blame these deaths on Americans, in which case we similarly killed six million Jews during the Holocaust because we didn't have American personnel in the Hitler's camps running food kitchens.
This has nothing to do with Nazi Germany. But if you want to consider the deaths of the Jewish refugees we refused entry into the US that went back to die in Nazi death camps. Those deaths are in part on US hands.
So, perhaps we're responsible for the deaths of Iraqis who somehow managed to flee Saddam, got on a boat or plane and make it to the US, but who we refused entry to and put on a direct flight to Baghdad, though there weren't any flights in or out of Baghdad. Hrm... That number must be near zero.
But on the bright side, instead of letting Saddam run amok all over the Middle East, like Hitler did in Europe (which allowed him to seize any Jews we refused to admit), we made sure Saddam couldn't keep killing Iraqis. In fact, we hung him. (Please don't go off on that, even if it does upset you).
So do you blame the US for all the starvation under China's Great Leap Forward, too?
Yeah, she "nails" it, all right.