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12 Monkeys..tv show

We do know the Witness is a time traveling, so maybe he just traveled to 2044 from a few years later, like the mid-1960s or 70s.
 
Remember how time moved around Ramsey as he lived out the twentieth century?

I hate this inconsistency with immortally.

UM yes, he's going to stop ageing, but not until he conveniently gets to his prime. He'll be ageing normally until he's 25, and then just stops there for some reason, when really, the witness is damn lucky that he's not still an immortal undying sperm forever.
 
I have this wild theory that Cole and Cassie have a daughter, who grows up to marry Cole's father. We never learned the identity of his mother, only that she spoke of apocalyptic things and left when Cole was quite young, if I remember correctly. It's just a theory, but it's no wilder than some of the stuff we've already seen on this show.
 
I thought it was pretty good.
Didn't someone on here theorize the Witness was Cassie and Cole's kid?
I was pretty surprised to see The Pale Man back.
The dog was cute, I really hope he sticks around next season.
I was a little confused by how Cassie could be pregnant if that version of her and Cole never got together. I know she was starting to remember things from before Cole drank the Red Tea, but I don't see how that could have meant that physical changes would happen too.
 
What I'm confused about is how Jones was alone for a year. Did it take a year for the convoy to go to Titan?
 
It could have, they appeared to have been on the road for a while when they jumped to them in the second to last episode. They also covered quite a bit of time with Cassie and Cole, and the past and future stuff does tend to move at about the same pace.
 
I'm pretty sure they had vehicles... it showed them leaving in Humvees two (or was it three?) eps ago.
 
How much gas do you think they had?

Gas only lasts 5 years after it's refined.

There are no gas stations.

Although, maybe those Humvees run on something more usable or findable than gasoline in their post apocalyptic America.

So yes, they had a way of making cars still work, future-fuel, but having enough future-feul to get where they're going seems unlikely, unless it's water or electricity.
 
That's true. Plus it's possible some of the vehiclec got destroyed. They also had to deal with other factions. And they had to look for food. So I guess it's possible it took them a year to get to Titan.
 
Some of the Daughters were also on horses. We saw Hannah ride back the their camp on horseback last week, so they kept at least one through the whole trip.
 
I was a little confused by how Cassie could be pregnant if that version of her and Cole never got together. I know she was starting to remember things from before Cole drank the Red Tea, but I don't see how that could have meant that physical changes would happen too.


Yeah, I had a bit of a problem with that as well. Sort of hoping there will be a reasonable explanation next year.

Jennifer was hilarious, with her LOTR/Braveheart/Independence Day speech. I laughed my ass off.
 
Like the whole season, this finale was kind of a mess conceptually. It was a cute touch bringing in Madeleine Stowe (the female lead from the 12 Monkeys movie) as a Primary, but her character was kind of a deus ex machina.

I was upset that Cole unilaterally decided not to tell Cassie about his choice to go back in time. It was very sexist and marginalizing, arrogating to himself the right to make that choice for both of them. It diminished Cassie as a character. She had a right to be told about this and to have a say in the decision -- especially since it involved the fate of her unborn child, which meant he had absolutely no damn right to take away her right to choose (and basically terminate her pregnancy by erasing it from history, so this plot point should offend both liberals and conservatives). She should've drunk the tea and jumped back with him. She didn't deserve his condescending treatment.

Interesting that they've begun exploring time travel into the future. That was part of the original La Jetee short that inspired 12 Monkeys, so I wonder if they're going to draw on any elements of that.

Didn't someone on here theorize the Witness was Cassie and Cole's kid?

Yeah, I think a lot of us did. It was pretty blatantly telegraphed. But the part I didn't see coming was that the Witness wouldn't have been born yet.


I was a little confused by how Cassie could be pregnant if that version of her and Cole never got together. I know she was starting to remember things from before Cole drank the Red Tea, but I don't see how that could have meant that physical changes would happen too.

Yeah, it's just part of the random timey-wimey magical thinking of this season. They make up whatever nonsense "rules" of time suit them at any given moment. The first season was a much smarter show.


What I'm confused about is how Jones was alone for a year. Did it take a year for the convoy to go to Titan?

That was weird. Even granted that it might've taken a long time to travel to Titan over land, it was absurdly contrived that their arrival date just happened to be exactly the same day that Cole and Cassie's tethers caught up and brought them back to the future. That's just too lazy and plot-convenient a coincidence. What they should've done was say that Ramse's party had arrived at Titan months before, and used the time machine to jump back several months to the appropriate date.


Jennifer was hilarious, with her LOTR/Braveheart/Independence Day speech. I laughed my ass off.

For her closing line, she should've gone with "Today, we are cancelling the apocalypse!" That would've actually fit the situation much better than the ID4 quote.
 
Season 2 being broadcast here now.

"Hey, it's Time Jesus." :lol: So glad Deacon is a regular, giving the show much needed humour.

I hope he survives into next season. :shifty:
 
Christopher Lloyd will be guest starring in Season 3.
IGN said:
Christopher Lloyd, who’s best known for his portrayal of Doc Brown in Back to the Future, will play a character named Zalmon Shaw. According to SyFy’s description, Shaw is a deadly, but charming, cult leader who recruits people to join the Army of the 12 Monkeys. He’s also the father the show’s villain, the Pallid Man.
I'm a huge fan of Lloyd's so this has me very happy.
 
^ I read about that last night so I don't really care, but I think you should definitely put stuff like that in spoiler tags.
 
Good news, bad news, strange news.

12 Monkeys is getting a 10-episode fourth season which will end the series.

Also, SyFy will air all 10 episodes of the third season from May 19-21, four episodes on Friday, three on Saturday, three on Sunday, which is quite strange for a show that's not being burned off.
 
Yeah, that is strange. I think I'm probably going to take it at least a bit slower on the app.
 
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