10 O'clock live
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That is the question... Sadly I won't be able to watch it if he is.
^^^I am glad the show is coming back, at last something to watch.........I dont care is Carr comes back or not to be honust.
What i have to ask myself is why these loop holes exist, certainly not for the little man on the street that's for sure....another loop hole that only the rich and afflunet can afford to use....so that's no doubt why it still exists, i wonder how many MP are into it as well.
Next time i go to Asda or Morrisions i will hide half my shopping under my coat, and if caught i will state it's aggresive shopping. and i will pay only what i need to pay....and not a penny more.
What i have to ask myself is why these loop holes exist, certainly not for the little man on the street that's for sure....another loop hole that only the rich and afflunet can afford to use....so that's no doubt why it still exists, i wonder how many MP are into it as well.
Next time i go to Asda or Morrisions i will hide half my shopping under my coat, and if caught i will state it's aggresive shopping. and i will pay only what i need to pay....and not a penny more.
There'll always be loopholes in any system (as there probably are at the other end of the spectrum) and on the whole I don't have a major problem with fudging the system so people end up a little better off (again at either end) but its the scale of this that's frightening! It's not like his accountant said "Ok Jimmy I've swung it so you're only paying 40% tax not 45%." he was literally paying something like 1%!
Of course in some instances they're only paying 0%!
I think it's a shame Osborne was forced to U turn on this.
Of course in some instances they're only paying 0%!
I think it's a shame Osborne was forced to U turn on this.
Whatever about the legality or morality of Jimmy Carr's actions, it would just be a silly idea to bring him back for this show. The show is undeniably left-leaning and frequently attacks greed among some of the wealthy, bringing Jimmy back and expecting the other presenters to ignore the elephant in the room would not only be absurd, it would be somewhat hypocritical. And to be honest, I don't think he would be much of a loss for the show, Brooker and Mitchell are the reason I bother watching it.
I would pay good money to have newswipe back........oh wait we already do. lol
What happened with Carr? He doesn't pay taxes?
More or less. The Times caught him using a tax dodge that cut his tax rate to about 1%, which was unfortunately the same rate that Barclays Bank had got out of a tax dodge he mercilessly sent up in a sketch for 10 O'Clock Live (as I don't imagine he wrote that sketch, it'd be interesting to see the look on his face when he got the script to see if he realised it might seem a bit hypocritical).
He's now apologised, said he won't do it again, etc etc, but with Jim Davidson defending him, he might have a bit of trouble winning back a lot the show's fans.
He was syphoning his money off in to a scheme called K2, whereby he declared a salary of £100,000 and then put the rest, around £3.3m in to the scheme in a tax haven, where they then "loaned" him the money back so he didn't have to pay tax on it.
All of this was legal, by the way. It's the moral aspect that's annoyed a lot of people.
I have no doubt Carr is just the opening volley in all this, no doubt more celebs, MP's and the likes will come to light in the next few weeks.
The Times has been running it all week, covering loads of sportsmen and so on, they just used Carr for the first day as he was a particularly interesting case to run as the headline.
Saturday's Guardian and Indy have been having fun after finding that Times sports columnist Gabby Yorath has (allegedly, according to them) been involved in something similar (dunno whether the Time covered her as I didn't see today's edition).
Of course Carr was just the opening volley - celebrities are easy targets for Cameron and his PR men to go after, all the while ignoring the many MPs and donors on his own side who do exactly the same sort of thing and on a grander scale (Philip Green, Vodafone anyone?). Fortunately, this attack doesn't seem to have worked for Cameron at all.
You can guarantee if Jimmy Carr ever made a donation to the Tory party, it wouldn't have ever been a headline.
You can guarantee if Jimmy Carr ever made a donation to the Tory party, it wouldn't have ever been a headline.
Ah yeah, it all seems quite a bit hypocritical anyway.
Yeah, the whole "We'd all like to pay less tax" thing is annoying for that very reason. Yeah, you're on £20,000 paying 20%, so of course you'd jump at the chance to be paying £1000 instead of 2000 in tax. When you're earning millions it's not £1000 here or there they're saving it's hundreds of thousands of pounds added to their millions. It's not exactly like they're scrimping and stretching every penny to make ends meet. So it's an entirely different thing in my eyes.
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