007 in cold blood...

[RobertScorpio]

Can you name particular scenes where James Bond, from Connery to Craig, actually act in a cold blooded way. Where he just lets go and shows that Bond, when he wants to, can be ruthless and with out mercy?

My first example comes from, of all Bonds, Roger Moore. Its in the movie For Your Eyes Only. There is a scene where the bad guy has just run down some woman Bond was with...but the car, with the bad guy in it, ends up dangling on the edge of a cliff...

Bond comes down, the villain is pleading with Bond to save him...but Bond, with Moore looking probably as 'cold blooded' as he can, kicks the car of the edge and kills the bad guy...

I had forgotten that scene from this Bond movie, and it played pretty well when I saw it last week..

What are some of your picks. And I don't mean entire movies, I mean a particular scene...

Robert Xavier Scorpio

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Of the top of my head, when Bond kills that German assassin in Tomorrow Never Dies and when he kills Elektra in The World is Not Enough are two examples.

There's probably several deaths in Quantum of Solace that fits this category as well.

 

[Admiral Bear]

Can you name particular scenes where James Bond, from Connery to Craig, actually act in a cold blooded way. Where he just lets go and shows that Bond, when he wants to, can be ruthless and with out mercy?

My first example comes from, of all Bonds, Roger Moore. Its in the movie For Your Eyes Only. There is a scene where the bad guy has just run down some woman Bond was with...but the car, with the bad guy in it, ends up dangling on the edge of a cliff...

Bond comes down, the villain is pleading with Bond to save him...but Bond, with Moore looking probably as 'cold blooded' as he can, kicks the car of the edge and kills the bad guy...

I had forgotten that scene from this Bond movie, and it played pretty well when I saw it last week..

What are some of your picks. And I don't mean entire movies, I mean a particular scene...

Robert Xavier Scorpio

I think this is probably the best scene Roger ever played as Bond, but he's gone on record as saying how much he hates it because he feels it wasn't representative of how he portrayed the character over the course of his tenure. I think Moore has something to say on this during his commentary on the DVD of FYEO.

 

[Ensign_Redshirt]

Maybe that scene from "The Spy Who Loved Me" where the bad guy desperately grabs for Bond's tie, but Bond simply lets him fall from the roof.

This scene was then copied for Quantum of Solace, where the respective "bad guy" was a British government agent working for a Quantum member.

 

[nx1701g]

In On Her Majesty's Secret Service there is a scene where Bond kills a Spectre agent in Piz Gloria and says "Merry Christmas" to the dead body.

 

[RobertScorpio]

Can you name particular scenes where James Bond, from Connery to Craig, actually act in a cold blooded way. Where he just lets go and shows that Bond, when he wants to, can be ruthless and with out mercy?

My first example comes from, of all Bonds, Roger Moore. Its in the movie For Your Eyes Only. There is a scene where the bad guy has just run down some woman Bond was with...but the car, with the bad guy in it, ends up dangling on the edge of a cliff...

Bond comes down, the villain is pleading with Bond to save him...but Bond, with Moore looking probably as 'cold blooded' as he can, kicks the car of the edge and kills the bad guy...

I had forgotten that scene from this Bond movie, and it played pretty well when I saw it last week..

What are some of your picks. And I don't mean entire movies, I mean a particular scene...

Robert Xavier Scorpio

I think this is probably the best scene Roger ever played as Bond, but he's gone on record as saying how much he hates it because he feels it wasn't representative of how he portrayed the character over the course of his tenure. I think Moore has something to say on this during his commentary on the DVD of FYEO.

Thanks for that info. I just got the DVD last night, and will listen to the commentary.. I think, though, this is a good example as to why actors shouldn't have any say when putting a screenplay together. I think that scene put into our minds that even this Bond, Moore's Bond, will act in this way when someone he loves is brutally murdered. Dalton did this quite well too...

Rob

 

[paudemge]

Dr. No, when Bond waits for that guy in his room, the guy comes in shoots the bed until out of bullets, bond turns on the lights and with a cigarette in his mouth calmly shoots him.

 

[AmbassadorPointyEars]

Goldeneye (Paraphrasing):

006: "For England, James?""
007: "This is for me."
Then he throws 006 to his death.

 

[paudemge]

You've had your six:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bYRcPd6-V8

 

[AmbassadorPointyEars]

Goldeneye (Paraphrasing):

006: "For England, James?""
007: "This is for me."
Then he throws 006 to his death.

Actually:
006: "For England, James?""
007: "No. For me."
Then he throws 006 to his death.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NsyvAKnDjg

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

The submarine car missile blasting of Caroline Munroe's copter in "The Spy Who Loved Me"

In terms of killing in "hot blood", I like the offing of the second knife throwing twin in OCTOPUSSY

Twin: "This is for my brother!"

Misses

Bond, visibly angry, throws the nice back, killing the twin, says "That's for 009!"

 

[TheArsenal]

Dr. No, when Bond waits for that guy in his room, the guy comes in shoots the bed until out of bullets, bond turns on the lights and with a cigarette in his mouth calmly shoots him.

This is the one that came to mind for me. Bond came straight out of the box shooting people in cold blood.

 

[trevanian]

Can you name particular scenes where James Bond, from Connery to Craig, actually act in a cold blooded way. Where he just lets go and shows that Bond, when he wants to, can be ruthless and with out mercy?

My first example comes from, of all Bonds, Roger Moore. Its in the movie For Your Eyes Only. There is a scene where the bad guy has just run down some woman Bond was with...but the car, with the bad guy in it, ends up dangling on the edge of a cliff...

Bond comes down, the villain is pleading with Bond to save him...but Bond, with Moore looking probably as 'cold blooded' as he can, kicks the car of the edge and kills the bad guy...

The guy doesn't plead for his life, because even though he is an important villain, he has no dialog (except maybe "ahhh" as he falls.)

Moore puts four rounds into Stromberg (two in the crotch) in SPY, in a really bad scene.

Best is always the Dent scene in DN.

 

[RobertScorpio]

Can you name particular scenes where James Bond, from Connery to Craig, actually act in a cold blooded way. Where he just lets go and shows that Bond, when he wants to, can be ruthless and with out mercy?

My first example comes from, of all Bonds, Roger Moore. Its in the movie For Your Eyes Only. There is a scene where the bad guy has just run down some woman Bond was with...but the car, with the bad guy in it, ends up dangling on the edge of a cliff...

Bond comes down, the villain is pleading with Bond to save him...but Bond, with Moore looking probably as 'cold blooded' as he can, kicks the car of the edge and kills the bad guy...

The guy doesn't plead for his life, because even though he is an important villain, he has no dialog (except maybe "ahhh" as he falls.)

Moore puts four rounds into Stromberg (two in the crotch) in SPY, in a really bad scene.

Best is always the Dent scene in DN.

I think he was pleading with his eyes...I thought the guy looked like John Denver, so I would have saved him...wink wink..

Rob

 

[Broccoli]

Dalton in LtK. When the rogue DEA agent is clinging onto the chain over the shark tank. He offers to Bond to split the money he got for releasing Sanchez. Bond quips with "You earned it, you keep it" and tosses the suitcase of money to him, causing him to plummet into the shark tank.

Then later, in a revenge kill, Bond kills a completely off-guard, nobody henchman when he sees that Sharky was killed.

 

[trevanian]

Dalton in LtK. When the rogue DEA agent is clinging onto the chain over the shark tank. He offers to Bond to split the money he got for releasing Sanchez. Bond quips with "You earned it, you keep it" and tosses the suitcase of money to him, causing him to plummet into the shark tank.

Then later, in a revenge kill, Bond kills a completely off-guard, nobody henchman when he sees that Sharky was killed.

I won't go for 'in cold blood' for those, because Bond is clearly angry, has his blood up. For a cold blooded kill, you are meaning something else. This is the prob I have with CR, because Craig seems to be messed up over hotblooded kills and pretty okay with coldblooded killing, which runs counter to MOST (not all) Bond, and makes him seem like a sociopath with a slightly bothersome conscience that is raised when he has to strain himself physically.

 

[Broccoli]

Dalton in LtK. When the rogue DEA agent is clinging onto the chain over the shark tank. He offers to Bond to split the money he got for releasing Sanchez. Bond quips with "You earned it, you keep it" and tosses the suitcase of money to him, causing him to plummet into the shark tank.

Then later, in a revenge kill, Bond kills a completely off-guard, nobody henchman when he sees that Sharky was killed.

I won't go for 'in cold blood' for those, because Bond is clearly angry, has his blood up. For a cold blooded kill, you are meaning something else. This is the prob I have with CR, because Craig seems to be messed up over hotblooded kills and pretty okay with coldblooded killing, which runs counter to MOST (not all) Bond, and makes him seem like a sociopath with a slightly bothersome conscience that is raised when he has to strain himself physically.

That is the interesting thing about Bond in CR/QoS is his approach to killing. In CR, it seems like kills because he thinks he has to. In QoS, like LtK, Bond is killing because he is after blood because of Vesper's death/betrayal. Bond kinda is messed up a little bit because of the betrayal. That was one of the themes in the movie that M touched specifically on.

The idea of Bond in CR/QoS is that he hasn't become the Sean Connery or Pierce Bronson-type Bond we all know and love yet. To me, the overall arc of the two movies show him going from an impulsive and reckless rookie agent into the hardened agent we know him as.

Personally, I think that when we see Bond in the next one, we'll have the more-traditional representation that most people know him as (but, keeping within the more realistic/serious tone of Craig's Bond).

 

[RobertScorpio]

Dalton in LtK. When the rogue DEA agent is clinging onto the chain over the shark tank. He offers to Bond to split the money he got for releasing Sanchez. Bond quips with "You earned it, you keep it" and tosses the suitcase of money to him, causing him to plummet into the shark tank.

Then later, in a revenge kill, Bond kills a completely off-guard, nobody henchman when he sees that Sharky was killed.

I won't go for 'in cold blood' for those, because Bond is clearly angry, has his blood up. For a cold blooded kill, you are meaning something else. This is the prob I have with CR, because Craig seems to be messed up over hotblooded kills and pretty okay with coldblooded killing, which runs counter to MOST (not all) Bond, and makes him seem like a sociopath with a slightly bothersome conscience that is raised when he has to strain himself physically.

That is the interesting thing about Bond in CR/QoS is his approach to killing. In CR, it seems like kills because he thinks he has to. In QoS, like LtK, Bond is killing because he is after blood because of Vesper's death/betrayal. Bond kinda is messed up a little bit because of the betrayal. That was one of the themes in the movie that M touched specifically on.

The idea of Bond in CR/QoS is that he hasn't become the Sean Connery or Pierce Bronson-type Bond we all know and love yet. To me, the overall arc of the two movies show him going from an impulsive and reckless rookie agent into the hardened agent we know him as.

Personally, I think that when we see Bond in the next one, we'll have the more-traditional representation that most people know him as (but, keeping within the more realistic/serious tone of Craig's Bond).

I like your conclusion, and I think you are right..I just saw QoS today and I liked it. I wonder if the success of BORNE is pushing Bond in this new direction: I hope not..

Rob

 

[trevanian]

Dalton in LtK. When the rogue DEA agent is clinging onto the chain over the shark tank. He offers to Bond to split the money he got for releasing Sanchez. Bond quips with "You earned it, you keep it" and tosses the suitcase of money to him, causing him to plummet into the shark tank.

Then later, in a revenge kill, Bond kills a completely off-guard, nobody henchman when he sees that Sharky was killed.

I won't go for 'in cold blood' for those, because Bond is clearly angry, has his blood up. For a cold blooded kill, you are meaning something else. This is the prob I have with CR, because Craig seems to be messed up over hotblooded kills and pretty okay with coldblooded killing, which runs counter to MOST (not all) Bond, and makes him seem like a sociopath with a slightly bothersome conscience that is raised when he has to strain himself physically.

That is the interesting thing about Bond in CR/QoS is his approach to killing. In CR, it seems like kills because he thinks he has to. In QoS, like LtK, Bond is killing because he is after blood because of Vesper's death/betrayal. Bond kinda is messed up a little bit because of the betrayal. That was one of the themes in the movie that M touched specifically on.

The idea of Bond in CR/QoS is that he hasn't become the Sean Connery or Pierce Bronson-type Bond we all know and love yet. To me, the overall arc of the two movies show him going from an impulsive and reckless rookie agent into the hardened agent we know him as.

Personally, I think that when we see Bond in the next one, we'll have the more-traditional representation that most people know him as (but, keeping within the more realistic/serious tone of Craig's Bond).

Funny, though I agree with you about the redevelopment of the character (though not about the need to start over), folks at bond websites seem really fixed on the idea that just dressing him up in a pinstripe and getting him to say his name at the end of CR is enough to magically turn him into a seasoned pro, and they friggin' HATE the Quantum flick because it doesn't cover new ground (when IMO QOS does address character development, rather adroitly, probably due to Marc Forster's involvement.)

I'm pretty sure you'll see a lighter and bigger Bond pic for the next one, because that is kind of the tradition going back. Connery's third had a lot more money and tremendous goodwill built up from the first two, and it was huge. Moore's third was the last on his contract after inconsistent response on his first two, and they threw everything but the kitchen sink into it (and for some reason people responded, even to the excruciating humor.) So Craig's will probably be in this same range of OTT, with the occasional dose of reality plugged in. In other words, there won't be any reason for me to see Bonds until they switch back to an actor who looks the part, not a blond and pitted Robert Conrad.