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“Jean-Luc Picard is back”: will new Picard show eclipse Discovery?

All I know, is that if these had been the Abrams Klingons, people would've been out with pitchforks and torches! :lol:
 
It would seem like they ripped off Ent's TATV.
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Put it this way, if someone took a commission to do an illustration for a Trek book in say..2007...not that far back....and stuck these Klingons and their new bird of prey on the front, with the DSC enterprise swooping by, they would be sacked. Or, if the illustration got through, on the cover of a book, it would laughed at by us.
Speak for yourself, please.
All I know, is that if these had been the Abrams Klingons, people would've been out with pitchforks and torches! :lol:
They haven't been????
I was about to say. The general Internet reaction to Abrams is "not real Star TREK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" :klingon::klingon:
 
Maybe that's what Klingons are supposed to look like and the other shows lacked the ability to fully achieve it. Like how they went from humans in dark makeup and hair pieces to humans with forehead pieces made from latex. Now they look more like an alien lifeform because makeup has improved over the years.

"Supposed to " means nothing..... in canon :beer:
 
"Supposed to " means nothing..... in canon :beer:
The canon is whatever CBS says is canon. That's why TAS doesn't count, even they keep referencing it. Hell Roddenberry at times claimed the fifth movie wasn't canon. Canon isn't some holy, set in stone text. It's just what counts as really happening in Star Trek and that changes on the whims on whoever is making it. A lot of you are confusing your own headcanon with the actual one and it is rather simple and straightforward. It's basically all the shows and movies are canon, sometimes with any book or comic unless it's contradicted by a future show or movie. It's always been that way. So yes, those are Klingons. They look different because they changed the design because they thought it looked cool. It's just a fairly drastic change, like how they changed from TOS to the movies and to TNG era and the Bad Robot films. They're all the same species and are always accepted as how a Klingon should look.
 
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The canon is whatever CBS says is canon. That's why TAS doesn't count,
Memory Alpha quotes someone from CBS as saying the following:

In 2007, CBS Consumer Products' Senior Director of Product Development Paula Block was asked about the topic of Star Trek canon for IDW Publishing's "Focus on... Star Trek" issue:

'Canon' in the sense that I use it is a very important tool. It only gets muddled when people try to incorporate licensed products into 'canon' – and I know a lot of the fans really like to do that. Sorry, guys – not trying to rain on your parade. There's a lot of bickering about it among fans, but in its purest sense, it's really pretty simple: Canon is Star Trekcontinuity as presented on TV and Movie screens.
Doesn’t that definition seem to include TAS since it’s been seen on screen? I thought the status of TAS was disputed canonically? Essentially we could define canon as anything that’s been seen on-screen.

Except Star Trek V.
 
As I understood it TAS was explicitly excepted by CBS for a while due to legal issues that made referencing it somewhat problematic. The legal issues were eventually resolved, so the exception is no longer necessary.
 
As I understood it TAS was explicitly excepted by CBS for a while due to legal issues that made referencing it somewhat problematic. The legal issues were eventually resolved, so the exception is no longer necessary.
So we really should be considering TAS as officially part of the continuity then?

Rec room holodeck and all...
 
Easily if they do the Picard show right
I suppose Picard is so well known that even non-trekkers may be tempted to watch it.

I mean, I wouldn’t want it to have a negative impact on DSC - as in I wouldn’t want people to turn away from DSC in favour of the Picard show, but I think that has the potential to happen, given how popular Picard is - and, as you say, if they do a good job of the Picard show we might be looking at TNG lightning in a bottle again...

The way I think about it is: the more Trek on tv the better. I’d want the Picard show to help DSC and attract more people to it than the other way around. If the Picard show is super successful it might encourage CBS to put out several very similar shows and we risk ending up being back where we were just before Enterprise premiered...
 
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