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‘Star Trek 3′: Roberto Orci Wants to Direct

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Yes you are correct about the foreign gross but that's probably due to increase amount of CGI, Xplosions!!! and T&A which is what draws foreign movie goers.

AFAIK the jump in foreign gross was due to their releasing in China and doing a major international media blitz, which they didn't do for ST09.

The belief that foreign markets will turn out for just anything that involves explosions and Heroes Saving the Earth is fallacious, I think, but there's a good chance that Paramount does believe that.
 
This is going to be the most interesting lead up to a Trek film ever.

We actually have a director who likes to engage in inane squabbles on Internet boards.

Let us all do our best to discourage politeness and encourage his frank, honest views to flourish.

Yeah, if we work hard enough, the reality-show drama of us back-seat-driving him every step of the way will be infinitely more exciting than the finished product.

Hell at this point I'm shocked any creative individual would even want to touch Star Trek with the crap that they have to put up with from the fanbase. No thanks.
 
I hope for Trek 3 we don't get another "save the earth" or Kirk vs. villian in the Khan template. It would be interesting to see if there were any consequences for Kirk's little trip to Quonos like they have shown in the comic series.


-Chris
 
Going over Orci's IMDb page, there sure are a lot of incredibly shitty movies he's been attached to. Just awful, cringe worthy movies. Very suspect resume.

He's definitely going to have to step up his game, hopefully he's capable of doing that.
 
Hell at this point I'm shocked any creative individual would even want to touch Star Trek with the crap that they have to put up with from the fanbase.

Spare me, what nonsense. Justin Bieber's fanbase is crazy. Morrissey's fanbase is crazy. Trekkies are entirely too wrapped up in self-hate about the Sin of Having Opinions, the quantity of irrational nutcases in Trekdom is if anything astonishingly low.
 
Hell at this point I'm shocked any creative individual would even want to touch Star Trek with the crap that they have to put up with from the fanbase.

Spare me, what nonsense. Justin Bieber's fanbase is crazy. Morrissey's fanbase is crazy. Trekkies are entirely too wrapped up in self-hate about the Sin of Having Opinions, the quantity of irrational nutcases in Trekdom is if anything astonishingly low.

From what I've witnessed as a reaction to these films, I still stand by my statement. These current batch of creative minds have been ridiculed to death by a very vocal group of Trek fans who complain and bitch about things that the various incarnations of the original are guilty of. Its beyond not liking the movie because of creative decisions, it's an obsessive nitpicking to a level that is beyond obsessive. I can see why Orci has the reactions he has, and why I hope he really turns out a quality product now that its all in his hands.
 
Hell at this point I'm shocked any creative individual would even want to touch Star Trek with the crap that they have to put up with from the fanbase.

Spare me, what nonsense. Justin Bieber's fanbase is crazy. Morrissey's fanbase is crazy. Trekkies are entirely too wrapped up in self-hate about the Sin of Having Opinions, the quantity of irrational nutcases in Trekdom is if anything astonishingly low.

Says the irrational nutcase. ;)

Even if Trek fandom isn't riddled with total nutjobs (and I don't grant that premise,) it's reputation is of an obsessive group of autism-spectrum ubernerds who can never be pleased. So I wouldn't be surprised if some creative types looked at Trek sideways and said 'no thanks.'

Seemed to work fine for Doctor Who's 50th.

Any honest Doctor Who fan will tell you that most of the material that came from 50th anniversary was either mediocre to downright awful. For instance, strip away the prologue, epilogue and the fanservice and "Time of the Doctor" is a pretty boring episode. The only good thing that came out of the 50th was "Adventures in Space and Time".

I seriously doubt that Orci could make a film without the crutch of fan wank and excessive CGI much less a good one.

Quite frankly, anyone who wasn't moved by the 50th special is dead inside. Any true Whovian would agree. :cool:
 
Says the irrational nutcase.

And you have to admit, there ain't many of me. ;)

Even if Trek fandom isn't riddled with total nutjobs (and I don't grant that premise,)

Oh, don't get me wrong, any fandom has its share of total nutjobs and then some. But I'm a hard sell for the proposition that Trekkies are unusually bad on this score. I've seen some of the alternatives up close.

it's reputation is of an obsessive group of autism-spectrum ubernerds who can never be pleased.

Believe it or not, that reputation is hardly the big deal to the wider world that Trek fans imagine it to be. Before coming here, I could go through a year and hear that stereotype zero times in the course of twelve months whether Trek came up as a topic of conversation or not. Here, I see people stewing in it daily, constantly convinced that this is how the world sees them.

It's absurd, and it's totally unnecessary. Even if some people out there have that stereotype in their heads, Trekkies themselves needn't be so obsessed about reinforcing it and buying into it.

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From what I've witnessed as a reaction to these films, I still stand by my statement. These current batch of creative minds have been ridiculed to death

Again, sheer drama queenery. Experiencing some mild-to-spicy criticism from a tiny portion of your fanbase isn't being "ridiculed to death," it's show business. People in show business don't instantly crumple in the face of a few bad reviews if that's where they belong. Being unfairly ridiculed is what happened to Ghyslain Raza. Nothing of the kind has remotely happened to Orci or Abrams, period.
 
It's a zombified corpse dancing for your amusement.

Just as long as it's amusing me, fine. :)

It's good to see a definite indication that the production is on track and moving forward. There's no reason to worry abour Orci.

There may be a human being on this planet who respects Devin Farraci's writing and takes his "sources" seriously, but there's no reason that a sane person with a functioning memory and any taste at all would.
 
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