Just reading the "was Janeway wrong in Scorpion" thread and wanted to bring up an old favourite of mine...basically, i believe that Janeway was deliberately written as a poor captain who is out of her depth
How many episodes where she makes weak decisions do you people need before you see this....They make this her first command and purposely show us that she's clearly not cut out for this level of leadership....had she stayed in the alpha quadrant dealing with menial starfleet tasks then yeah, sure, she'd probably be adequate
The writers signpost her weaknesses over and over. Scorpion is the first big one...and just in case you hadn't realised this was deliberate, the writers give us "hope and fear" to remind us....look what this captains poor decisions have lead to
Then in the following episode she has a breakdown (even she knows she's out of her depth) Chakotay regularly gives speeches that hint towards her lack of experience and poor leadership (though he knows they'll be ignored). Tuvok questions her very often (though usually with less conviction than Chakotay) The doctor has been keeping a record of all her poor decisions and was going to give it to starfleet (until the last minute when he changed his mind)
The writers even give us "good shepherd"...an episode about crew that aren't quite cut out for starfleet...Chakotay gives another speech about how in their first year, some crew clearly aren't up to the task required and in the alpha quadrant, they would probably be reassigned....and as far as i'm concerned, he is blatantly including Janeway in that assessment....the writers certainly are
How many episodes can you think of where the bridge officers seriously question what the captain is doing on TOS, TNG, DS9....compared to Voyager
They respect her, even love her....but they know she has serious limitations
Personally, i liked the show (my favourite) much more because of that but i don't think her erratic nature was bad writing...i think it was great writing
How many episodes where she makes weak decisions do you people need before you see this....They make this her first command and purposely show us that she's clearly not cut out for this level of leadership....had she stayed in the alpha quadrant dealing with menial starfleet tasks then yeah, sure, she'd probably be adequate
The writers signpost her weaknesses over and over. Scorpion is the first big one...and just in case you hadn't realised this was deliberate, the writers give us "hope and fear" to remind us....look what this captains poor decisions have lead to
Then in the following episode she has a breakdown (even she knows she's out of her depth) Chakotay regularly gives speeches that hint towards her lack of experience and poor leadership (though he knows they'll be ignored). Tuvok questions her very often (though usually with less conviction than Chakotay) The doctor has been keeping a record of all her poor decisions and was going to give it to starfleet (until the last minute when he changed his mind)
The writers even give us "good shepherd"...an episode about crew that aren't quite cut out for starfleet...Chakotay gives another speech about how in their first year, some crew clearly aren't up to the task required and in the alpha quadrant, they would probably be reassigned....and as far as i'm concerned, he is blatantly including Janeway in that assessment....the writers certainly are
How many episodes can you think of where the bridge officers seriously question what the captain is doing on TOS, TNG, DS9....compared to Voyager
They respect her, even love her....but they know she has serious limitations
Personally, i liked the show (my favourite) much more because of that but i don't think her erratic nature was bad writing...i think it was great writing
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Kind of like how there are people who keep misappropriating the word "Schizophrenia" to mean something that it actually really ISN'T in real life.
