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Spoilers Russell T. Davies Returns to Doctor Who as New Showrunner

Do not give a flying f*** what bullshit excuses people make. Elon Musk is a Nazi. You use his platform you're supporting a Nazi.
A flying fraking excuse for people who can't otherwise address and stimulate conversation toward an issue that is centre in our times? Who can't talk about it on BlueSky, again as an example, because it bans pro-Palestinian discourse?

You're such a fraking ignoramus.. My God!
 
If you're actively using Twitter in 2026 you are either a Nazi or cool with putting money in the pocket of a Nazi.
I agree that Elon Musk is no different from the Nazis. But as far as I understand, while other platforms try to shut down pro-Palestinian accounts, Twitter does not do this. In fact, the worst part is that they do not shut down any accounts at all, including many accounts that are clearly MAGA and that I have reported.
 
I agree that Elon Musk is no different from the Nazis. But as far as I understand, while other platforms try to shut down pro-Palestinian accounts, Twitter does not do this. In fact, the worst part is that they do not shut down any accounts at all, including many accounts that are clearly MAGA and that I have reported.
A true double-edged sword, but also a clearer reflection of today's society, in certain respects. But for myself I detest and even argue against fascism in and of all forms, including and especially Neo-Nazism (like the Doctor would as a matter of fact - well, maybe not the Twelfth, lol) which Musk is 1000% a supporter of. Platforms outside Twitter do shut down any discourse they see as confrontational (except to bash Trump, obviously), when in fact these voices (like pro-Palestinian, pro-LGBT, pro-Cuba, progressive, etc) need more room to express and advocate for. Its ridiculous and patently absurd that even journalists like Mehdi Hasan, who has ferociously advocated and was even fired by MSNBC for opposing the anti-Palestinian sentiment of the MSM, is either a Nazi or a supporter of Musk, in particular, whom he visibly and vocally detests and objects to.
 
And here you are posting a link from that site instead posting the article link.

To be fair, wasn't it a media magazine that was reporting/repeating/relaying what RTD said? And let's say RTD has an account on X, maybe he stopped posting there and doesn't log in anymore? Even then, how much does it matter? He can speak hypothetically, conceptually, his actual opinion unfiltered, or anything else, just like anyone else there?
 
Heck, i don't even disagree with RTD per se. Twitter is a hellsite, but arguably its never been great, its also a place that you can navigate and find things. News-wise, is more reliable than MSM, mainly because independent sources thrive in it -- accounts like Dropsite, Zeteo, etc.
 
But he clearly has a point. The Doctor as an outsider estranged from his own people and customs, often flamboyantly dressed, unmarried :p, hangs around with beautiful women but often doesn't seem to notice them...

Even setting aside facts such as the first director of the show being a gay man, or the obvious gay themes in episodes like Curse of Fenric, or the fact that it's always had a large gay following.

The show can clearly be seen through a queer lens.

Note, that doesn't mean it's the only lens Who can be seen through, one of the show's amazing strengths, and reasons for its longevity, is down to the fact that it can tell different kinds of stories, this is a show that can appeal to a wide range of people
There were definitely elements back in the 80s when JNT was in charge. And you did get Captain Jack with RTD1 and subsequently with Torchwood, but this was made as a more adult show. He went all out with RTD2.

However, I don't think this show was originally a gay show when it came out in the 60s. It was definitely far less progressive than Star Trek at the same time. And it was clearly a children's show before evolving into more of a family show.

Now, it seems we have no show since it went too far too fast during an extremely polarized period of time, and it did on Disney+ of all places, a company that got burnt several times with any media that moved slightly from the middle before evening airing this show on top of its political issues with FL. And now, there is still no word for when The War Between will air.
 
"Doctor Who is a gay show" is something a lot of people, franchise writers among them (even straight ones) have been saying since at least the 90s. It's not a new concept, nor did it just start as a result of gay people getting positions of power in the show. Maybe it wasn't the intent when the show first started in the 60s, but that has more to do with the fact homosexuality didn't have mainstream acceptance in the 60s.
 
"Doctor Who is a gay show" is something a lot of people, franchise writers among them (even straight ones) have been saying since at least the 90s. It's not a new concept, nor did it just start as a result of gay people getting positions of power in the show. Maybe it wasn't the intent when the show first started in the 60s, but that has more to do with the fact homosexuality didn't have mainstream acceptance in the 60s.
RTD wrote Doctor Who stories during the Wilderness Years.

The Virgin novels did ramp up the adult content for Doctor Who.
 
There were definitely elements back in the 80s when JNT was in charge. And you did get Captain Jack with RTD1 and subsequently with Torchwood, but this was made as a more adult show. He went all out with RTD2.

There was allusion long before JNT's era as well ("Carnival of Monsters" is an easy one to make suppositions upon*), and JNT's era was also too busy playing more with ideas - even at the expense of characterizations - even if some actors were gay or there were allegories or allusions to some characters, which a viewer could read into if they chose. Interestingly, some people feel pandered to and that usually has the opposite of the intended effect, but I digress. Personally, as a kid, I loved the adventure and the truly unique feel of the show. Fast forward a couple of decades and perceptions change and there's more neat things to discover, either by the real people making it or reading into stories and coming up with allusions and perceptions that may or may not have been a direct intent by the writers, but are arguably still fun to think about and/or into nonetheless.


* Starting with "Polari", but there are others and some of those aren't as direct and perhaps the mention of "Polari" also qualifies as being too indirect. Dunno.​


However, I don't think this show was originally a gay show when it came out in the 60s.

Nope. It was "a show", period. Some people might make an allusion- or perception-based connection just because the first director was gay, or the first producer wasn't a man. It was just creative, original, and unconventional entertainment. But it was aimed at whole families, with intent of educational value written into the scripts along with entertainment value. That definitely changed over the years, depending on production team and even stories within. I know what lured me to it as a kid and sexuality, mine or anyone else's, had nothing to do with it. That's one unique value of the classic run, it's impossible to accuse it of anything... other than "too violent" except there's no correlation between violent BBC kid shows circa 1963 or 1976 or 1984 or whenever with increased violence, or else kids would have done more than shriek "EXTERMINATE!" by January 1964. Though fictional fantasy violence versus more accessible real-life violence, such as smashing a lounge chair with the business end of a scissors probably had some talking to for "digress(ion) from the code of violence in programmes". Fast forward to seasons 13, 21, 22, even 24 where plenty of violence - from fantastical elements or "accessible" real-life ones...

It was definitely far less progressive than Star Trek at the same time.

pretty much. While the BBC had "Emergency Ward 10" and "Othello" showing interracial kisses, several years before Trek, and without aliens controlling minds to force it (eek!), the show still largely was of its time, even if Barbara got to do more than scream regularly and even Susan - once or twice - eschewed the trope (e.g. "The Sensorites"). But Trek was, for the time, the most progressed overall. Gotta progress from somewhere, though, and even "I Spy" was the first show to have a non-white lead and that was a year before Trek premiered and the character of Alexander Scott was given rather more to do than say "hailing frequencies open", though to be fair TOS was about "the big three" given focus (instead of full ensemble) whereas Alexander and his fellow agent Kelly Robinson were equal footing and the show was just about those two.

And it was clearly a children's show before evolving into more of a family show.

The first 3 stories comprised of 13 episodes sorta disagree, unless threatening to stone someone to death is deemed child-friendly (even with context delayed until the 12th or 13th episode where the adventures were alluded to via exposition that explain the Doctor being a paranoid meanie that Barbara and Ian managed to fix. )

Now, it seems we have no show since it went too far too fast during an extremely polarized period of time, and it did on Disney+ of all places, a company that got burnt several times with any media that moved slightly from the middle before evening airing this show on top of its political issues with

Disney wasn't the first. Sci-fi has been divisive for a long time and not just due to who's in what role. The common complaint of Star Trek (2009), which wasn't made by Disney+, is that it's fluff compared to all Trek preceding it (though I'd be tempted to debate at times, too...)


I missed a post, what's "FL"? Florida?

And now, there is still no word for when The War Between will air.

In America?
 
But he clearly has a point. The Doctor as an outsider estranged from his own people

So that means the Doctor is gay, and not bi or asexual or demi or incel or never bathes or anything else? (Those options are just as possible, but - in all cases - that's the fun of keeping it all open-ended or implied.)

and customs, often flamboyantly dressed, unmarried :p, hangs around with beautiful women but often doesn't seem to notice them...

Even though, for the most part, the show - also most exemplified by JNT's era - avoided "hanky panky" because that's how shows for kids were treated at the time. Inference is based on fact but is not the fact, but correlation equating causation can also be just as variable. (JNT said the phrase, but for the sheer bulk of the run, it was an unspoken rule. Indeed, the fact "The Aztecs" has the Doctor unwittingly making cocoa to appease a local so he can get at a copy of the tomb plans her kid has, when he's told the real meaning of the cocoa preparation and he throws a spazzy face, it's pretty much clear he's not trying to get beyond her clothing for some hankypankying. (but at the end, he keeps a broach given to him as he had an emotional bond. There's a difference... unless one's demisexual (meaning "asexual until there is an emotional bond developed and then *boom* the libido starts up", but if that's what viewers want to believe, that's as great as any other reason.)

Also consider that Hartnell was not really flamboyantly dressed, Troughton wasn't ("space hobo" being the moniker), Pertwee was "posh", T Baker is "Bohemian" (which isn't the monopoly of a single orientation), etc. Only C Baker could be "flamboyantly" and that coat is nowhere near as gaudy as the real-life fashion that would follow a year or two later. Then again, those awful pants WERE. Six just had no dress sense. McCoy? One look at that pullover vest would have been enough for everyone to look away, but if people are playing in archetypes then his outfit is more "nerdy?" than anything else.

As for the companions, which were male-light and especially after the Troughton era ended (or early Tom Baker if you include UNIT or at least the Brigadier as a companion), those were often deemed more "for the dads" (at least as observed by viewers, if anyone on the production team said so outright then it's a different story) and it didn't matter how smart or anything else they were. Apparently, this goes back all the way to the 1960s, where some - like Innes Lloyd - said the phrase outright: https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-guide/doctor-who-closing-time/ (Look beyond the phrase and how the character archetypes are utilized and there's often more going on that's also more interesting.)

Even setting aside facts such as the first director of the show being a gay man, or the obvious gay themes in episodes like Curse of Fenric,


Or Ace trying to seduce a soldier because it's "more adult", never mind where the 1990s New Adventure novels went and some of those felt more juvenile, ironically. As for Ace in that story, where JNT disallowed Judson and Millington being gay as well*, Ace's "more adult" moment is perhaps more likely due to being of a sexually active age and using an age-old tactic (could be many thoughts on this, each not incorrect as that's not my thing)... and soldiers were lured back in the day and long before WW2 as well. By the time "Fenric" was made, the show was being buried by competition and JNT's bosses - who would have intervened if the same thing was attempted five years earlier - clearly didn't care. But yet another example of why JNT disliked "hanky panky", the following article does say outright why: https://randomwhoness.com/2014/01/31/the-curse-of-fenric-1989.

* Maybe there's enough being hinted at in the script, or viewers are reading into it - coupled by making-of documentary reveals from the makers. At the same time, he didn't stop the excesses of violence, smoking, etc, on screen that increased between seasons 19 through 22, and even 23 and 24 have some grizzly ideas buried under the veneer of "light and airy camp" as that dilutes it. Apart from the melting of Kane, which prompted more letters than several hundred alphabets from across the galaxy. Or several dozen, it's only known that the BBC got calls and letters over Kane's melting being too graphic (geez, look up Snyder's from "Earthshock" and her demise is far gorier... but not as corny.)​
or the fact that it's always had a large gay following.

True. How many reasons there are, of course, is the next question. The show was pretty much hands-off with any overt sexuality in general and gay guys, for one example demographic, likely weren't there for gawking at the companion for 23 minutes each week.

The show can clearly be seen through a queer lens.

Perception prevailing, there are more lenses than in an optometrist's office. As written by a person called "queer" but back when that word was used as an insult against non-heterosexual people as opposed to defining "something or someone that/who 'is different compared to most'" as a generic term, for which some claim has been reclaimed, but that leads into a completely different argument that harks right back to... perception.

Note, that doesn't mean it's the only lens Who can be seen through, one of the show's amazing strengths, and reasons for its longevity, is down to the fact that it can tell different kinds of stories, this is a show that can appeal to a wide range of people

^^this

Also, if it needs to be mentioned, I'm "B". Kinsey figured out some differences in the 1950s if nobody else prior had and, since then, the graph has been superseded by a more complex and encompassing table as well...
 
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RTD wrote Doctor Who stories during the Wilderness Years.

The Virgin novels did ramp up the adult content for Doctor Who.
And then there were the BBV films...:eek:

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All I know for certain is that Disney dropped this show after two seasons and still hasn't aired The War Between. RTD2 successfully killed off a relationship with the mouse. And now, he's doubling down on it.

Looks like we're back in the woods with a Christmas special this year that might or might not work.
 
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A true double-edged sword, but also a clearer reflection of today's society, in certain respects. But for myself I detest and even argue against fascism in and of all forms, including and especially Neo-Nazism (like the Doctor would as a matter of fact - well, maybe not the Twelfth, lol) which Musk is 1000% a supporter of. Platforms outside Twitter do shut down any discourse they see as confrontational (except to bash Trump, obviously), when in fact these voices (like pro-Palestinian, pro-LGBT, pro-Cuba, progressive, etc) need more room to express and advocate for. Its ridiculous and patently absurd that even journalists like Mehdi Hasan, who has ferociously advocated and was even fired by MSNBC for opposing the anti-Palestinian sentiment of the MSM, is either a Nazi or a supporter of Musk, in particular, whom he visibly and vocally detests and objects to.
You’ll be angry, but in a way Meta is actually doing the best thing. Because on Twitter I want my account to consist only of the film accounts I follow and similar accounts. But because of a site I follow, 10 pro-Palestinian accounts show up in front of me. And under them there is always at least one Zionist account. This becomes a bit demoralizing.
 
You’ll be angry, but in a way Meta is actually doing the best thing. Because on Twitter I want my account to consist only of the film accounts I follow and similar accounts. But because of a site I follow, 10 pro-Palestinian accounts show up in front of me. And under them there is always at least one Zionist account. This becomes a bit demoralizing.
Fair
 
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