CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by jespah, May 10, 2018.

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  1. jespah

    jespah Taller than a Hobbit Moderator

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    I agree. I'm sure AP was invited for the specific purpose of notoriety/controversy. Else why bother? You invite guests to a convention because you honestly think they'll help you sell tickets and move merch for your table/booth people so the table/booth people will pay more a table/booth next time around.

    So it's kinda disingenuous when specifically courting controversy and relying on it results to - surprise! - actual controversy.
     
  2. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Admiral Premium Member

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    You make some good points, but this one kinda mystifies me. Why would you go through the trouble of setting up a big convention only to intentionally do something that is almost guaranteed to turn the whole thing into an episode of the Jerry Springer show?
     
  3. RedForman

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    I think the organizer made a calculated bet - thinking that because enough time had passed and LFIM hadn't been bloviating nearly as much - that his detractors would ignore, overlook or otherwise not bother stoking the fire as it were. As has already been pointed out, said bet obviously didn't pay off for him.
     
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  5. ProwlAlpha

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    That promoter was all about drama causing as a way to promote his very niche con. Manticon is a delightful small convention and Sphinxcon was its Southern counterpart organized by the same group of people. Unfortunately, the promoter decided to use negative promotion rather than Hey, this is a con about Military Science Fiction and Space Operas. By that person's actions, I, for one, will never go to one again and retired to casual reading of the Honorverse series rather than be an active member in the very small fandom.
     
  6. JD

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    Some people just want any attention they can get, whether it's good or bad.
     
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  7. dmac

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    A lot of people don't understand that Alec took this four thousand dollar a minute collection of statements and pitted it against every fan created production, in every convention he could get it into, in order to show the world how great he was. I don't think he was shy about letting everyone know either. We were like ants to be crushed on a hot sidewalk.
    The fact that he took away some 17 awards only lends credence to the myth that in this industry, money can buy you Trekness.
    There are really just a handful of people that do what Prelude did in the fan film universe, only with hard work, blood, sweat and limited funds.
    The only thing Alec did was raise a lot of funds and sold the idea of creation which a lot of donors wanted to be a part of. After that it all got pretty weird. Even my 80 year old dad sent me an Axanar web article knowing I was involved in something to do with Star Trek.
    Alec did what a promoter should do, sell the dream in as many ways as you can. The only problem is that he did it off the backs of another IP. I can't think of any Star Trek fan film executive that would even consider it.
    I'm not up on every convention issue, don't even care to be. I'd guess they need to make their money for putting on the event and you don't do that by telling people not to show up.
     
  8. JD

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    @jespah, I have an unrelated legal question, I was wonder if you could answer form.
    I just got a new $2,500+ electric bike to ride to work, and when I got to work today I asked one of my store managers if I could put it in the break room where it would be safe and out of the way,. He told that I could not, so I ended up busy hallway where they move pallets and large carts, and there is constant flow of people and it has a pretty good chance of getting damaged. I made it clear that there is a good chance of it getting damaged in the hall, but he insisted it couldn't go in the break room, and the only other option was a office where it would be even more in the way.
    If leave it in either the hall or the office and it gets damaged, would I have any legal grounds to force him to pay me back for the bike? I'm not one of those people who wants to sue everybody over everything, but I don't really think's fair that he's forcing me to put in a place where I made it very clear (as in we got into a pretty serious argument over it) it's likely to get damaged, and really, really want him to pay me the price of the bike if something happens to it.
     
  9. feek61

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    Did you buy the bike from AP?
     
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  10. JD

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    No..., I have feeling if I did he probably would have taken my money and then would spend the next who knows how many years telling me it's on order and it'll arrive soon. Then I'll sue him, I'll end up setting up guidelines for how to order bikes, and he'll agree to follow the new guidelines, but will still never deliver the bike.
     
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  11. jespah

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    I really couldn't say. Some of this may depend on what are considered reasonable accommodations in your jurisdiction. If there's a bike rack (yes, I know this isn't a Schwinn, but the courts may not care), then that might be seen as good enough. You and I both know it's not -- but this is the sort of thing that's changing faster than courts and judges and statutes can keep up with.
     
  12. Tom

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    Switching to the 'fanboys gone wild' part of this thread. I appears Huston Huddleston (who is now a registered sex offender, BTW) has a minor connection to James Gunns firing from GOTG3:

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-holly...ming-to-100-pubescent-girls-touch-themselves/
     
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  13. Jedi_Master

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    We call this: The Peters Effect.
     
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  14. dmac

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    Maybe there is an advantage for your employer

    https://www.dmv.org/az-arizona/green-driver-state-incentives.php
     
  15. Lynsioux

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    Whar a tangled web. A minor point--Huston is required to register as a sex offender by September, so he won't be in the database yet.
     
  16. Tom

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    Didn't he plea out to get a lesser charge? I don't recall
     
  17. Jedi_Master

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    According to the most recent Axanar podcast, the project is in "hiatus" with the only blip on the calendar being the "Axacon" coming up in a few months. I guess with the new venture, Alec has a decent cash flow and will only be discussing Axanar when he needs some glory or validation.
     
  18. Sgt_G

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    Scroll down in the comments on this one:



    You'll find the following exchange:

    {sigh}
     
  19. Admiral2

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    Yep, they've got their Hollywood terms wrong. A hiatus is a vacation break from an ongoing production schedule.

    The proper term for what Mini Axanar is in is "Development Hell."

    I saw that. I notice that interview hasn't made it's way to the blog yet. Maybe her parents got wise and decided to let Slow Lane twist.
     
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  20. JD

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    There is a bike rack, but 1) it's over 100 degrees pretty much every day out here, and the bike's introuctions specifically say to keep it somewhere cool, and 2) I won't leave even a regular bike on it because last time I did someone cut my lock and stole the bike.