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Defiance Season 2 Discussion

Remember when Cameron would draw shit with a pencil on Terminator the Sarah Connor Chronicles?

(Of course you don't. Realestate in your brain is valuable.)

Horizontal Lines and dots like a printer from the 80s stacked on top of each other until they make sense visually.
 
Tommy wants Berlin back and Tommy wants Arisa back.

He has to go through Nolan to get either of them.

And whichever girl he doesn't some how win back, is going to raise hell.

I was let down that Berlin is just a nick name.

Oh.

What about shipping Tommy and Nolan?

All that anger Tommy has to go some where, so why not stab Nolan, with his penis?

This is what I love about gay love winning out.

All those princesses in their castles impotently waiting to be rescued...

####'em.

I have to say I really wish they hadn't forced the antagonism between Tommy and Nolan this season. It's a fine story seed, but I feel like there hasn't been enough established to make it work properly.
 
Tommy wants Berlin back and Tommy wants Arisa back.

He has to go through Nolan to get either of them.

And whichever girl he doesn't some how win back, is going to raise hell.

I was let down that Berlin is just a nick name.

Oh.

What about shipping Tommy and Nolan?

All that anger Tommy has to go some where, so why not stab Nolan, with his penis?

This is what I love about gay love winning out.

All those princesses in their castles impotently waiting to be rescued...

####'em.

I have to say I really wish they hadn't forced the antagonism between Tommy and Nolan this season. It's a fine story seed, but I feel like there hasn't been enough established to make it work properly.

I agree, on the surface it certainly makes sense that Tommy would be pissed off and bitter towards Nolan given Nolan just pops up out of the blue after an absence of nearly a year and takes his old job back, resulting in Tommy being shoved aside and demoted. Unfortunately all that's resulted from that is Tommy turning into a mouthy and whiny bitch constantly complaining about Nolan until he resigns as deputy and joins the E-Rep military where he continues to be a mouthy and whiny bitch, only this time with a gruff Batman voice.

Part of the problem is Tommy has very little screen time this year and so they can't really develop him that much. But also the antagonism in general has come out of the blue. Last year Nolan and Tommy got along great together, were practically friends. Yes, Tommy would be pissed over losing his promotion, that's hardly an excuse to turn into a total jerk around Nolan. It might also help if we could see what kind of sheriff he was and whether or not he really was up for the job. Ah well, I guess it would have taken time away from all that important Irzu stuff.
 
Agreed. If they'd established that Nolan or Irisa had been back to Defiance at least once in the nine-month seasonal gap and done something (likely unintentionally) that estranged Tommy, that'd be fine. But given that it was Irisa's decision to return and Nolan wasn't even interested in his old job at first, they're just trying to snowball it in.
 
Remember when Cameron would draw shit with a pencil on Terminator the Sarah Connor Chronicles?
Horizontal Lines and dots like a printer from the 80s stacked on top of each other until they make sense visually.

Wasn't that Kyle XY's thing?

Maybe Bear did the re-mixing?

I liked it.

Old stuff that I kinda almost recognized.

Hmmm?

Did Brett Michaels survive Arkfall?

They kept playing an alien cover of Four Non-Blondes' "What's Going On" and then an instrumental version of said song later as Kenya wandered around.
 
So you didn't like her on Buffy or Dexter either?

(I feel like we've been to this rodeo before.)

Also I probably thought it was a revelation the last three times I remembered (and forgot) that Stahma and Amanda were ####ing Dexter at the same time on Dexter.

Wow.

I had to go back to 1990 to find somewhere Mia was a series regular for any meaty consistency.

21 episodes of Dracula the Series... Oh.

Miss Kirshner would have been 15, and therefore of no use to you pornographically.
Mia Kirshner was on the Showtime lesbian drama The L Word for 6 season from 2004-2009. And yes if anyone was wondering, she did do some nude scenes, I think at least one might have even been full frontal.
 
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I have to say its kind of gutsy for a show to be willing to kill off a main character and then flat out tell the audience it's for real by showing their decayed corpse essentially saying there isn't going to be a take back.

Kind of morbid too.
 
You haven't seen NuBSG?

Starbuck blew up.

Then She came back unscathed.

Then they found her corpse.

And they still let her cylon duplicate live because they have no gag reflex.

Oh.

Venture Bros corpses are almost valueless.

The bottom fell the hell out of that market.
 
Abandonment.

They had a good thing going in season one.

Maybe he looked up to Nolan like a father.

And then he split.

I'm assuming that's the fourth parent to ditch him in you count the original sheriff form the pilot.
 
The Votan AI and is it’s ability to control and manipulate people like Irisa reminds me of the nanotech on NBC’s now-cancelled “Revolution”. Had Revolution been renewed for it’s third season, the nano would have been a large part of that show’s plot. And it looks like an AI that IMO, is a lot like the nano on Revolution is now playing a key part for the s2 finale of Defiance too.
 
Unless Dominion's Wikipedia page has been cleaned up by Syfy, it seems that season one was only meant to be 8 episodes long, and in retrospect, big things did happen in episode 8 that seemed climaxual and cliffhangery.

Dominion's concept and pilot was AWFUL... But once you accepted what was FUNDEMENTALLY wrong with it's prime movements, the whole Romeo and Juliet story played out with some entertainment value.
 
I'm wowed by Christie's embracing of Casti values. That was a cool scene with the enhanced sense of smell.

Still don't get the Quentin stuff. And I don't get why the VC was holding his mother? What? I thought she was in a psyche hospital?
 
Unless Dominion's Wikipedia page has been cleaned up by Syfy, it seems that season one was only meant to be 8 episodes long, and in retrospect, big things did happen in episode 8 that seemed climaxual and cliffhangery.

Dominion's concept and pilot was AWFUL... But once you accepted what was FUNDEMENTALLY wrong with it's prime movements, the whole Romeo and Juliet story played out with some entertainment value.

Okay I guess an edited Spartacus could not go on early so many weeks in a row to fill the schedule hole.
 
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