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Where are the older people in the crew?

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It often strikes me that, when watching trek, most of the (human) crew seems rather young. The highest ranking officers might be slightly older, but otherwise most of the crew seems to be 25-35, with of course the rare exception. But I would expect a starfleet career to span a significant part of someone's life. So, where are all the older people on starships? A few explanations I could think of:

1. Thanks to better healthcare, people look younger than they are. So they look 30 but may be 50 in fact.

2. "Chasing around the galaxy is for the young". People move on to shore duty when they get slightly older. This could be true for the higher echelons (indeed admirals usually look a lot older), but there must be a lot of people without such a "high" career, as I would think only a few people would get to the really elevated ranks in any type of reasonable organisation. So I would expect a lot of commissioned officers, looking around 40-45 without a captain's rank or higher, but I rarely see them.

Even in eps featuring starfleet headquarters, or any other starfleet facility, most of the personnel there seems rather young. So, where do all the others go ? Do they get disgruntled with starfleet for not getting the career they dreamed of , and resign ? Or would the 'standard' starfleet commission have a fixed duration (say, 20 years), and is it only the people with potential/very important skills whom they offer an extension ?

3. We are not often seeing average vessels of starfleet. As Enterprise is an 'elite' vessel, you would expect the best of the best there, people who are thought to make it to senior ranks far earlier than average. Then again, I would think that their premises would imply that 'voyager' and DS9 are 'more average', and they seem to have a crew just as young.

These are the options I could think of. Any thoughts on this ?
 
Don't know about an in-universe explanation, but older actors might not always look that good in a Starfleet costume right off the rack. That's probably why most older characters we see are guests and get a custom tailored outfit.

I'm over 60, so just about everyone on Star Trek looks young.
 
Yeah, I watched him last night. He's one of the rare exceptions. You see less of it as each series goes on, because a lot of the extras are cast because they fit existing costumes. You rarely see anyone with a weight problem as a Starfleet officer, except for Kirk. :shifty:
 
Guinan was a civilian member of Picard's crew, she was quite old, at least half a millennium. Or by "old" did you mean aged and infirm?

Dax (the worm) was also centuries old.

Doctor McCoy was referred to as Admiral by Data, but it's unclear if he (McCoy) was still active service, or Data was using a honorific.

Picard was supposedly ten years older than the actor that played him. In the episode Tapestry, Picard was a seventy year old Lieutenant, apparently Starfleet doesn't have a "up or out" policy.

A in-universe explanation would probably be people enter Starfleet in their late teens and mid-twenties, serve five, ten or twenty years and then leave to settle on a nice planet, pursue a different career and raise a family. Humans in the future live up to a hundred and fifty years, Vulcans two hundred and fifty.

Plenty of time to do different things.



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I always have doubts about "Tapestry". Sometimes I think it's just Picard in a delirium and Q has no real involvement at all.
 
Bev Crusher's friend Dalen Quiace was older, as was Commander Quniteros. But I take the OP's point.
 
I wouldn't expect a lot of older people. In real world militaries, the young massively outnumber the old. Only a tiny fraction of ensigns and lieutenants ever make it to Admiral. Most have long since left the service. Even admirals are mostly in their 50's. The huge majority of service people are between 18-40. That is one thing ST really doesn't get wrong.
 
I would surmise that officers are only kept in field duty as long as they're still physically in top shape, because even when they're on an exploration mission they need to be ready to fight at any time.

Of course in the 24th century 'Top shape' probably lasts longer than it does now.
 
Dr. Boyce in "The Cage" appeared to be at least in his fifties (actor John Hoyt was 59 at the time).
 
Dr. Piper in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" looked in worse shape than Boyce, and didn't look like he could have done a thousand meter run.
 
The transporter operator - I forget her name - in the TNG episode, 'The Next Phase' looked to be somewhere in her mid-to-late 40s. Maybe early 50s.

One of Odo's love interests - I forget her name as well as the episode - looked to be around the same age as the actress in the above-mentioned episode.

In Trek 2009, you have a couple of ENT crewpeople who look to be 'seasoned'. Alas, they're only in the background.
 
Wasn't one of Jeri Taylor's contributions that they started hiring older background players?
 
maybe the question we need to be asking is, do the food replicators work the way we think they do? Or is there some soylent green action going on here?
 
Most Starfleet personnel and Federation citizens over a certain age are reqired to take a "Usefulness to Society" examination. Among the general population, these tests are colloquially referred to as "death panels", though the Federation denies this is their true purpose. Despite a commendable success rate, errors do occur, which explains why Dr. Bashir's father is still alive. :shifty:
 
1. Thanks to better healthcare, people look younger than they are. So they look 30 but may be 50 in fact.
In my mind, it's mostly this, especially as we know that humans have a significantly longer life expectancy compared to today.
 
Dr. Piper in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" looked in worse shape than Boyce, and didn't look like he could have done a thousand meter run.

A thousand meters? I'm not sure he could have made it to the bathroom!
 
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