JMS teases Babylon 5 feature film at Comic-Con
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By this point, I don't think that JMS is worried deep down about making money.
He might pretend it's part of his agenda to his investors, but after all the f...
He "wrote" Thor (2011) and World War Z?
meanwhile... What the hell is this?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3447326/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_1
B5 X3: Terran Conflict?
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhQbCKtun_g[/yt]
He might pretend it's part of his agenda to his investors, but after all the f...
He "wrote" Thor (2011) and World War Z?
meanwhile... What the hell is this?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3447326/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_1
B5 X3: Terran Conflict?
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhQbCKtun_g[/yt]
The problems getting 'Cloud Atlas' off the ground had a lot less to do with how much star power it had or whether they had sufficient budget and more to do with the script being bonkers and utterly incomprehensible to the suits.
That it got made at all by a major studio is nothing short of a miracle.
It's not imaginary. It's *potential* funding based on investor's spoken intent. He's not making this up, he's talking plans and expectations based on what he currently knows.
That's just not relevant from a production perspective. Dredd's financial failure at the box office was mostly down to poor (read, all but non-existent) promotion.
I'm surprised this is apparently going to be a reboot as the fact the station was still there for twenty years after the main part of the show ended should have given plenty of scope to do a new story with a new cast of whatever characters you want to have serving there at the time but at the same time allowing for cameos for old characters (President Sheridan giving out orders) and keeping roughly in line with old continuity without having to directly reference it. That could have been the best of both worlds for fans and the theoretical wider audience.
To be honest though, I'd be amazed if this actually happens, it was enough of a shock when The X-Files managed a comeback and that was a cultural phenomenon at its peak in a way dear old B5 never was.
To be honest though, I'd be amazed if this actually happens, it was enough of a shock when The X-Files managed a comeback and that was a cultural phenomenon at its peak in a way dear old B5 never was.
I wish we could get that last X-files movie that was supposed to deal with the colonization on 12/22/2012. Maybe JMS could fund that, instead.
^Hey I said as much in my first post in this thread. Some people however seem so irrationally against the very idea, that they're flat-out making up reasons why it's not even remotely feasible. Which to me is just sad and more than a little bonkers.
X-Files was indeed a massive cultural phenomenon...for about the first four to six years. It's later season were a slow stumble into obscurity and irrelevance. By comparison, B5 went out on a much higher note and actually told a cohesive story, as opposed to a contrived, rambling mess. It's no wonder nobody cared when the second movie came out a decade later.
I'm not saying B5 will be any different (same thing basically happened with Serenity) but at least we know these things *can* get made.
X-Files was indeed a massive cultural phenomenon...for about the first four to six years. It's later season were a slow stumble into obscurity and irrelevance. By comparison, B5 went out on a much higher note and actually told a cohesive story, as opposed to a contrived, rambling mess. It's no wonder nobody cared when the second movie came out a decade later.
I'm not saying B5 will be any different (same thing basically happened with Serenity) but at least we know these things *can* get made.
B5 went out on a high note? "Sleeping in Light" was great, but since that we've gotten a lackluster spin-off (Crusade), a poor TV movie (LotR), and the painful whimper called "Lost Tales." If anything can be characterized as a "slow stumble into obscurity and irrelevance," it's the string of releases I just listed.
The "contrived, rambling mess" of the X-Files produced some great episodes of television that still hold up today. It produced characters that the general public is still aware of today.
Babylon 5 had some really great episodes but their visual effects have become antiquated to the point of distracting from the story. The general public is (maybe) aware of B5 only as a punch line on the Big Bang Theory -- a shorthand to demonstrate how out-of-touch Sheldon is by his powerful hatred of an obscure TV show that probably no one in the studio audience even knows existed.
^And SPACED. Always SPACED
"Babylon 5 is a big pile of s**t"
"GET OUT!"
"Babylon 5 is a big pile of s**t"
"GET OUT!"
I cringe whenever I find myself saying "Floated" while under the influence of The 100.
^And SPACED. Always SPACED
"Babylon 5 is a big pile of s**t"
"GET OUT!"
I unfortunately saw SPACED before I saw B5. I wish the reverse had been true, because that quote would have been so much funnier.
Fair point, though I was only really referring to the show propper, not the larger franchise.
X-Files died *way* before it's final seasons, but if you want to get into spin-offs and the like, it hardly faired any better. Millennium' seemed to die on the vine, 'The Lone Gunman' got cancelled faster than 'Firefly' (but deservedly so from what I gather). Then there was the first movie that nobody but hardcore fans have seen since it's release and a second movie that from the looks of things, not even the fans went to see. In a lot of ways, X-Files was to the 90's what Lost was to the 00's. Made a big splash, paddled around a bit before drowning in it's own nonsense and sinking to the bottom of the ocean to be promptly forgotten.
So by comparison, B5 still comes out on top since it's main body of work is still well regarded and has dated surprisingly well, mostly on the strength of the writing and actors' chemistry. Granted it was never a HUGE deal like X-Files. It was (and remains) a cult favourite, which is why I'd previously compared it to the original BSG.
Millennium wasn't a spin-off of The X-Files. The two shows didn't cross over until the second season. They were both just 1013 productions.
Fair point about The Lone Gunmen, though, which never really worked, although I enjoyed watching it (once).
I think much of The X-Files has dated rather well, and the fact that it's being restored in high definition and is still being syndicated is indicative of its continued value to the studio (the failure of the second feature film notwithstanding). Rumors have abounded lately about another movie (unlikely at this point, I think) or a reboot (more likely, although you'd have to revamp a lot of the series simply due to the fact that it is over twenty years later).
Fair point about The Lone Gunmen, though, which never really worked, although I enjoyed watching it (once).
I think much of The X-Files has dated rather well, and the fact that it's being restored in high definition and is still being syndicated is indicative of its continued value to the studio (the failure of the second feature film notwithstanding). Rumors have abounded lately about another movie (unlikely at this point, I think) or a reboot (more likely, although you'd have to revamp a lot of the series simply due to the fact that it is over twenty years later).
I got to hand it to JMS for still trying to revitalize B5 but at some point it goes from admiration to pity.
Now he just comes off as pitiful because he's been trying to get something done with B5 for ages to no avail and all big announcements never have come to fruition. At some point you have to realize it won't happen and you let it go. You did a damn good job in the past but you have to move on and do something else.
JMS had a great idea and made it reality in the 90s but i wonder why he never got to repeat such a thing with something different. He could be something like Joss Whedon who had his 90s hit shows but who has moved on and tried other stuff and some if failed like Dollhouse but he never gave up trying to come up new stuff which culminated with him doing Avengers and firmly setting himself up to be Marvel's chief nerd.
JMS seems to be unable to move on.
Now he just comes off as pitiful because he's been trying to get something done with B5 for ages to no avail and all big announcements never have come to fruition. At some point you have to realize it won't happen and you let it go. You did a damn good job in the past but you have to move on and do something else.
JMS had a great idea and made it reality in the 90s but i wonder why he never got to repeat such a thing with something different. He could be something like Joss Whedon who had his 90s hit shows but who has moved on and tried other stuff and some if failed like Dollhouse but he never gave up trying to come up new stuff which culminated with him doing Avengers and firmly setting himself up to be Marvel's chief nerd.
JMS seems to be unable to move on.
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JMS had a great idea and made it reality in the 90s but i wonder why he never got to repeat such a thing with something different. >>
I love JMS and I love Babylon 5... but every single thing I've read of his after that has just been a variation of the B5 story. Often with quotes directly pulled from the show. I think he poured everything he had into B5.
JMS had a great idea and made it reality in the 90s but i wonder why he never got to repeat such a thing with something different. >>
I love JMS and I love Babylon 5... but every single thing I've read of his after that has just been a variation of the B5 story. Often with quotes directly pulled from the show. I think he poured everything he had into B5.
If JMS gets this into production, rest assured Paramount Pictures will follow it with a DS9 movie. It's like a tradition.
Indeed.
And they'll wait one whole movie before they start copying plot points verbatim.
He had a dream given form.
Really - that was MY thought too!
There was all that bullshit about the movie about twelve years back and look what happened there!
Actually, I'd say quite the opposite and if only for the fact that to be a producer in Hollywood, you NEED to be a MASSIVE bullshitter!
I don't think he's a bullshitter. I think he's sincere, but he just hasn't had very good luck with continuing B5.
Kind of off topic, but I enjoyed Lone Gunmen more than either X-Files or Millennium, neither of which ever caught my interest.