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Lucasfilm announces a new direction for the Star Wars EU
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That wasn't it? 
If by "deep" you mean "fractured, inconsistent, and overly used" ... then yeah, you just might have a point.
First, you're again making broad statements about JJ. He has no ability to make anything? Your opinion. Stop stating as though it's fact. Personally, I've liked a lot of his work: Alias, Lost, Super 8, to name but a few.
Second, this is ultimately a fictional universe that can and has had many interpretations over time. A new storyline doesn't destroy the existence of stories told. I've been reading the Marvel Star Wars comics from the 70s and 80s and the knowledge of the existence of other stories that take priority doesn't destroy my enjoyment of them. Your reaction to his taking the reigns of Star Wars is like JJ killed your dog. There are a lot bigger things to get as irrational as you have about the current Star Wars EU being moved down in the continuity scale.
Your inability to have the most remote amount of rationality has proven to me you're no longer worth my time.
I am excited about the blank slate, and who knows all those EU books I bought might be worth something in the future (oh wait, I sold them to some neighbor kids, oops)
There is no way that TPTB will not use at least SOME of the concepts, ideas, and characters in the "original" EU in the new films, books, and TV shows. Here's hoping they pick some of my favorites.
By the way kirk55555 - hate leads to the dark side.
There is no way that TPTB will not use at least SOME of the concepts, ideas, and characters in the "original" EU in the new films, books, and TV shows. Here's hoping they pick some of my favorites.
By the way kirk55555 - hate leads to the dark side.
kirk55555 said:
I can call them whatever I want. I can be as angry with them as I want, and its my opinion that the people in charge of the SW Franchise and movies are money grabbing idiots. Of course, because its JJ abrams and Disney I'm talking about, people don't like to hear people/groups they like insulted. If I insulted a group or person the majority of people disliked, no one would comment on my harsh languageI stand by my comments on the current SW owners and the people working on the movies. They want money, and lack the ability to make anything worthwhile even if they cared about making something good while making money, which they don't. Disney's minions want to produce some crap books to support the horrible movies. JJ abrams wants to create another mindless Transformers like Sci fi movie and cash the check for doing so. I get why they're doing it, but it sucks as a fan and I'm going to call these a-holes what they are.
Yout do realize everyone in Hollywood is in it to make money, right? The fact that sometimes they manage to make a good movie/TV show/book/whatever is secondary. If they weren't in it for the money they'd be making micro budget indie art films, not multi-hundred million dollar blockbusters.
If this is how you feel you need to check out Alias.
Have you thought about just moving on and finding a new interest outside of Sci-Fi movies and TV? It seems to me that nothing that happens in the genre is ever going to make you happy, so maybe you should find something else to invest your time in that you actually enjoy.
Holding J.J. Abrams responsible and making him the target of scorn because an entertainment corporation he's not even a member of decided to decanonize books and graphic novels most of the public and even a whole lot of Star Wars fans have never read (nor ever will read) is....kinda flimsy and weak to say the least.
For a series of films you're absolutely convinced are going to suck harder than the vacuum of deepest intergalactic space you've devoted an awful lot of energy and hatred to things you claim you can't stand (yet haven't even been made yet so - how can you even remotely know?), yet will still go see because you're just too big a fan to resist.
I don't understand. And maybe it's best I don't, because that philosophy just makes no sense no matter how many different ways you try to look at and flowchart it.
If you're going to label Abrams the worst monster in the history of cinema, fine. Your opinion, your time, your right. But don't tie him to the decision by Disney to streamline their new property a bit by cutting out some of the fat that doesn't jibe and make sense. They would be doing this no matter which director had been given Episode VII, and guilt by association isn't a good card to play no matter what topic two people are debating.
Remember what Yoda said about hate? Yeah, that.
For a series of films you're absolutely convinced are going to suck harder than the vacuum of deepest intergalactic space you've devoted an awful lot of energy and hatred to things you claim you can't stand (yet haven't even been made yet so - how can you even remotely know?), yet will still go see because you're just too big a fan to resist.
I don't understand. And maybe it's best I don't, because that philosophy just makes no sense no matter how many different ways you try to look at and flowchart it.
If you're going to label Abrams the worst monster in the history of cinema, fine. Your opinion, your time, your right. But don't tie him to the decision by Disney to streamline their new property a bit by cutting out some of the fat that doesn't jibe and make sense. They would be doing this no matter which director had been given Episode VII, and guilt by association isn't a good card to play no matter what topic two people are debating.
Remember what Yoda said about hate? Yeah, that.
But if you de-canonize them, it means that they're not real anymore... as opposed to the current status where the events in the EU books have actually occured.
Well, not actually actually, but actually in a figurative sense. Or something.
You will see a massive difference between Abramstrek and Abramswars. He approached Trek as a Non-Fan, but he approaches Wars as a massive fan.
And big budget action adventure just screams Star Wars to me. Not Trek.
JJ is a lot of things - overrated and hugely successful are two of them, but I think he's a great fit for Star Wars. I think the chances of the new films being as crap as the prequel trilogy are low...
JJ is a lot of things - overrated and hugely successful are two of them, but I think he's a great fit for Star Wars. I think the chances of the new films being as crap as the prequel trilogy are low...
Interesting quote from that link:
<<Q: the thing w/ the @SWTOR sector of SW Canon is that it is SO FAR in the past and doesn't even connect to the films. Why erase it?
JH: We don't consider it "erased" it's still there. As long as nothing new directly contradicts it, it's there to be used. >>
Isn't that basically the way it always worked? It's canon until something comes along ot contradict it? lol
<<Q: the thing w/ the @SWTOR sector of SW Canon is that it is SO FAR in the past and doesn't even connect to the films. Why erase it?
JH: We don't consider it "erased" it's still there. As long as nothing new directly contradicts it, it's there to be used. >>
Isn't that basically the way it always worked? It's canon until something comes along ot contradict it? lol
No they are saying stuff is there to be used - so it "exists" when they use it and not before.
Thanks for that. Made me chuckle. First point, nothing has been decanonized. They are creating a new continuity. The main canon in Star Wars has always been the film level canon. Period. Then comes TV. THEN the more recent books and comics. The new regime at Lucasfilm never had to adhere to the continuity set forth in the books. And frankly, I'm glad they don't. There's tons of unnecessary baggage in what has been set forth in the books.
I look at Star Wars as almost a legend. There are so many different levels of canon and continuity, there's no reason that one can't say that a story did or didn't "happen" because the first words we see onscreen are "A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far, Far Away...." Stories from long ago are often filled with some parts historical accuracy, some parts legend. Details are exaggerated in some points as well. Obviously this being a fictitious universe, there's no historical accuracy per se, but instead it's levels of canon or continuity. So, who's to say there's not a version of the Star Wars universe where Jar Jar, Rocket Rabbit, Jaina Solo and a character from the sequel trilogy can't exist?
Personally? I'm excited to be able to pick up a Star Wars book again and feel like I don't have to keep a list of who's who, what's what, who's dead and who are we fighting this week.
No, the two Empire & Rebellion novels that came out after it are apparently also being branded as Legends. (Despite the fact that one of the announced "new EU" books was supposed to be part of that trilogy.)
There was also Kenobi, and Maul: Lockdown as well.
From the perspective of the EU's timeline, it would be the last book, yes, though Dark Horse's Star Wars: Legacy comic series would still be the overall endpoint on the EU timeline.
ATimson covered the answer in terms of real-world publishing releases.
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