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What people, deities, planets, etc need a starship named for them?

Bad Thoughts said:
I find it disappointing that given TNG's emphasis on diplomacy, the only diplomats names that appear were either wartime figures or in-universe. None of them were internationalists/federalists. To that end:

USS George Marshall
USS Dag Hammarskjöld
USS Robert Shuman
USS Konrad Adenauer
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er, George Marshall was a wartime figure. He was chief of staff of the US Army during WWII.


Adenauer is a good pick.
 
USS Triumphant said:
USS Vasili Arkhipov
USS Stanislav Petrov
USS James Blunt
USS Mikhail Gorbachev
USS Nelson Mandela
USS Dwight Eisenhower
USS Alan Turing
USS Tim Berners-Lee
USS John F Kennedy
USS Feng-Shan Ho
USS Anousheh Ansari
USS Fred Rogers
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There is a USS Mandela mentioned in The Brave and the Bold - The First Artifact http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/USS_Mandela_(23rd_century)

Bad Thoughts said:
I find it disappointing that given TNG's emphasis on diplomacy, the only diplomats names that appear were either wartime figures or in-universe. None of them were internationalists/federalists. To that end:

USS George Marshall
USS Dag Hammarskjöld
USS Robert Shuman
USS Konrad Adenauer
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There is a USS Hammarskjöld in the SCE eBook Out of the Coccoon.http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/USS_Hammarskjöld
 
Alright Im going to go slightly off topic here and share a pet hate of mine:

Ship names named after someone is cool...but including the forename just always bugs me. It looks so clunky.

If someone is important enough to have a galaxy spanning alliance naming ships after them...why a first name?

Surely the U.S.S Einstein is self explanatory and 'Albert' is just excessive?

Im just randomly posting this because its late here and im tired and it bugs me seeing this in Star Trek Online and this thread reminded me of it.

Oh and for the thread:

USS Marx
USS Hume
USS Mill
 
TheGoodStuff said:
Alright Im going to go slightly off topic here and share a pet hate of mine:

Ship names named after someone is cool...but including the forename just always bugs me. It looks so clunky.

If someone is important enough to have a galaxy spanning alliance naming ships after them...why a first name?

Surely the U.S.S Einstein is self explanatory and 'Albert' is just excessive?

Im just randomly posting this because its late here and im tired and it bugs me seeing this in Star Trek Online and this thread reminded me of it.

Oh and for the thread:

USS Marx
USS Hume
USS Mill
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But how would we know if the ship in question was named for Albert? It could have been named for Bob "Super Dave Osbourne" Einstein.

Just kidding.
 
TheGoodStuff said:
Alright Im going to go slightly off topic here and share a pet hate of mine:

Ship names named after someone is cool...but including the forename just always bugs me. It looks so clunky.

If someone is important enough to have a galaxy spanning alliance naming ships after them...why a first name?

Surely the U.S.S Einstein is self explanatory and 'Albert' is just excessive?

Im just randomly posting this because its late here and im tired and it bugs me seeing this in Star Trek Online and this thread reminded me of it.

Oh and for the thread:

USS Marx
USS Hume
USS Mill
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Goucho, Brit and Hayley?
 
TheGoodStuff said:
Alright Im going to go slightly off topic here and share a pet hate of mine:

Ship names named after someone is cool...but including the forename just always bugs me. It looks so clunky.

If someone is important enough to have a galaxy spanning alliance naming ships after them...why a first name?

Surely the U.S.S Einstein is self explanatory and 'Albert' is just excessive?

Im just randomly posting this because its late here and im tired and it bugs me seeing this in Star Trek Online and this thread reminded me of it.
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There is real world precedent. Just review this list of current US Navy ships and you'll see several named after people that include their first names. Even a few which include their middle initial.

Or then there's the Canadian Coast Guard, which uses people's full names for their ships, sometimes their middle initials, and in some their titles.
 
^ Aesthetically speaking though, both of those real-world traditions are a bit uninspiring. The American tradition in particular seems to have a weird political thing going on which has little to do with the services affected (like the USS John P. Murtha, so named despite the fact that, justly or not, a huge chunk of servicemen despise its namesake).
 
USS Karl Marx
USS Friedrich Engels
USS Adam Smith
USS Thomas Paine
USS Robert Owen
USS Eugene Debs
USS Norman Thomas
USS Hellen Keller
USS Lucy Burns
USS Alice Paul
USS Cesar Chavez
USS Martin Luther King, Jr.
USS Nelson Mandela
USS Dolores Huerta
USS Joe Hill
USS Upton Sinclair
USS Bill Haywood
USS W. E. B. De Bois
USS Dorothy Day
USS Angela Davis
USS Noam Chomsky
USS Bayard Rustin
USS Chris Hedges
USS Cornel West
USS Harvey Milk
USS Lucy Parsons
USS Mother Jones
USS Walter Sisulu
USS Denis Goldberg
USS Govan Mbeki
USS Ahmed Kathrada
USS Rusty Bernstein
USS Raymond Mhlaba
USS James Kantor
USS Elias Motsoaledi
USS Andrew Mlangeni
USS Bertolt Brecht
USS Olof Palme
USS Imre Nagy
USS Lech Wałęsa
USS Clement Attlee
USS Salvador Allende
USS Malcolm X
USS Anne Kronenberg
USS Tony Kushner
USS Frederick Douglas
USS Tecumseh
USS Bernie Sanders
USS Keith Ellison
USS Barbara Ehrenreich
USS Naomi Klein
USS Jack Layton
USS Tommy Douglas
USS George Orwell
USS Tony Benn
USS Reinhold Niebuhr
USS Augusto César Sandino
USS Michael Harrington
USS Francis Fox Piven
USS James Loewen
USS Howard Zinn
 
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Not including a person's first name on the basis of assuming everyone would recognize just the last name is a very humanocentric attitude, if you ask me. Why should a Vulcan or a Trill be expected to know, for example, that the USS Franklin is named for Benjamin Franklin and not Rosalind Franklin?

It gets even more confusing when the person's last name happens to also be a common noun. TheGoodStuff's suggestion of the USS Mill is clearly meant as a reference to John Stuart Mill, but would the average Ferengi realize that? Or would he think those strange hew-mons named one of their ships after an industrial apparatus?

And good luck trying to figure out to whom Starfleet is trying to pay tribute if they ever named a ship the USS Smith...
 
Vulcan names
USS Seleya
USS ShiKahr
USS Nevasa
USS Kolinahr
USS T'Pol
USS Sovol
USS Spock
USS Tuvok

Andorian Names
USS Kumari
USS Shran
USS Andoria

Earth Naval Vessels
USS Acheron
USS La Fayette
USS Dupuy De Lome
USS Soyza
USS Bismarck

Other Proper Earth Names
USS Hopi
USS Kachina
USS Kykotsmovi
USS Polacca
USS Walpii
USS Sipawlavi
USS MIshongnovi
USS Oraibi
 
USS Dravecky
USS Hammaker
USS Garrelts
USS Brantley

Yes, those are baseball players. :p But if you think long and hard, maybe put forth some Google fu, you'll know why I chose them. Hint: It has nothing to do with what team they played for.
 
Nah, it would be the famous Scientist who single single handedly saved the Robinson Expedition.
 
Skywalker said:
Not including a person's first name on the basis of assuming everyone would recognize just the last name is a very humanocentric attitude, if you ask me. Why should a Vulcan or a Trill be expected to know, for example, that the USS Franklin is named for Benjamin Franklin and not Rosalind Franklin?

It gets even more confusing when the person's last name happens to also be a common noun. TheGoodStuff's suggestion of the USS Mill is clearly meant as a reference to John Stuart Mill, but would the average Ferengi realize that? Or would he think those strange hew-mons named one of their ships after an industrial apparatus?

And good luck trying to figure out to whom Starfleet is trying to pay tribute if they ever named a ship the USS Smith...
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Exactly. Is the U.S.S. Marx named after Karl . . . or Groucho, Harpo, or Chico?

(Let's be honest here. Nobody would name a starship after Zeppo.)
 
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