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Most dated Star Trek episode or movie

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What do you think is the most dated Star Trek episode or movie?

Also what do you think is the most timeless Star Trek movie or episode?
 
THE VOYAGE HOME feels the most "dated," to me. It's completely forgettable. The humour is lame, the action is weak and to cap it all off, if that's the phrase, there is no tension in this movie. Nothing's really at stake, other than bussing a tank of whales in the invisible ship of makebelieve. It's not even that they visit the 80's that dates it, it's the script, the ad libs and Nimoy's direction. There's nothing pan-generational about this film. It's of it's day - that's it and all about it.
 
I'm not sure, but watching Best of Both Worlds on Bluray a while back really highlighted how dated some of the set and makeup designs were around 1990. It's still a brilliant hour and a half of television epicness, but the Bluray version did in fact spoil the episodes a bit for me.
 
When I think of the most dated episode, I always think of that tos episode with the guys who are white on one side and black on the other and they are intolerant towards one another based on which side of them is white and which side is black.

Such a classic.
 
Most Dated: "The Way To Eden"

Most Timeless: "The Inner Light" [They could broadcast this, and they likely will, in a century and its heartfelt story will still touch emotions]
 
THE VOYAGE HOME feels the most "dated," to me. It's completely forgettable. The humour is lame, the action is weak and to cap it all off, if that's the phrase, there is no tension in this movie. Nothing's really at stake, other than bussing a tank of whales in the invisible ship of makebelieve. It's not even that they visit the 80's that dates it, it's the script, the ad libs and Nimoy's direction. There's nothing pan-generational about this film. It's of it's day - that's it and all about it.

I was beginning to think I was the only one who thought IV was meh. The only scene I like at all is the one where Bones and Scotty are giving Nichols the formula for transparent aluminum. That's cool. The rest is a self-indulgent bore.
 
THE VOYAGE HOME feels the most "dated," to me. It's completely forgettable. The humour is lame, the action is weak and to cap it all off, if that's the phrase, there is no tension in this movie. Nothing's really at stake, other than bussing a tank of whales in the invisible ship of makebelieve. It's not even that they visit the 80's that dates it, it's the script, the ad libs and Nimoy's direction. There's nothing pan-generational about this film. It's of it's day - that's it and all about it.
Can't argue with that.

Most classic: "The City On The Edge Of Forever."
 
I think "Mudd's Women" is incredibly dated in its gender politics. Despite the token presence of Uhura, it's written under the assumption that the Enterprise crew is entirely male and hasn't seen a woman in ages. The women are pure commodities, mail-order brides who have no prospect for achievement in life beyond marrying a rich man. And the happy-ending moral is that if a woman really believes in herself, she can become a perfect wife, as beautiful and domestic as her husband needs her to be. Even by 1966 standards, it's backward.
 
TMP is for me a pretty dated movie, of course for the slow pacing, but also some visual effects as in the scene on Vulcan or the next one with Kirk and Sonak at Starfleet headquarters.
 
THE VOYAGE HOME feels the most "dated," to me. It's completely forgettable. The humour is lame, the action is weak and to cap it all off, if that's the phrase, there is no tension in this movie. Nothing's really at stake, other than bussing a tank of whales in the invisible ship of makebelieve. It's not even that they visit the 80's that dates it, it's the script, the ad libs and Nimoy's direction. There's nothing pan-generational about this film. It's of it's day - that's it and all about it.

I was beginning to think I was the only one who thought IV was meh. The only scene I like at all is the one where Bones and Scotty are giving Nichols the formula for transparent aluminum. That's cool. The rest is a self-indulgent bore.

Gotta disagree. I love TVH and find it endlessly watchable. It's a fun, feel-good romp that always leaves me smiling--and it's possibly the most accessible Trek movie as well. You don't have to be a hardcore Trekkie to enjoy it.

"The Way to Eden," though: Space hippies? That episode was dated by 1970 at least.
 
I think "Mudd's Women" is incredibly dated in its gender politics. Despite the token presence of Uhura, it's written under the assumption that the Enterprise crew is entirely male and hasn't seen a woman in ages. The women are pure commodities, mail-order brides who have no prospect for achievement in life beyond marrying a rich man. And the happy-ending moral is that if a woman really believes in herself, she can become a perfect wife, as beautiful and domestic as her husband needs her to be. Even by 1966 standards, it's backward.

They've still got mail-order brides today. And worse.

And probably will have in the future until there is more gender-equality and less poor or war-torn nations throughout the world.

Still we can hope in the future (by the time of the 23rd century) that it won't be necessary.
 
Not necessarily the most dated episodes of TNG, but The Price and The Game are two blatant cases. The Price, for the melodramatic/soapish tone of the scenes between Troi a Devinoni Ral and the aerobic scene, and The Game for the typical 90's fear or virtual games (ex: Arcade, The Lawnmower Man).
 
^What's even more dated about "The Game" is how totally lame the game actually is. Even Pong is more complicated.
 
And yet, I couldn't help thinking about "The Game" during the whole Flappy Bird Flap.

"Mudd's Women" is a hard choice to refute, Mr. Bennett. I'm mulling, however.
 
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