Catsuits/unitards in our future?
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Only if the current fad of "fast food" becomes obsolete. At least, that's my hope.
Around Halloween one year. I had a lady come in to my theatre wearing a all black catsuit. She was gorgeous with a long black ponytail. Almost caused a riot.
I'm in favor.
I'm in favor.
I think Jeri Ryan would still have been sexy if they had put her in realistic civilian clothing. I'd say a short white jacket over an ordinary blouse, a tight pair of faded blue jeans, and athletic shoes. Bam. Done. She would have looked both real and fantastic.
Blue jeans have been around since 1873 and there is no reason they should fall out of existence in the future, in favor of "Star Trek Civilian" -- a line of clothing that seldom looked real.
T'Pol came off even less believable in her tightest catsuits (she had various outfits), because she didn't have the excuse of an ex-Borg who needs a dermaplastic garment to hold her innards together. Given T'Pol's Vulcan ethnicity and the likelihood that this would color her civilian clothing (for the worse), I guess they did about as well with her clothes as could be expected.
Even so I enjoyed the shows, found Seven and T'Pol sexy, and I have to admit they carried it off.
Blue jeans have been around since 1873 and there is no reason they should fall out of existence in the future, in favor of "Star Trek Civilian" -- a line of clothing that seldom looked real.
T'Pol came off even less believable in her tightest catsuits (she had various outfits), because she didn't have the excuse of an ex-Borg who needs a dermaplastic garment to hold her innards together. Given T'Pol's Vulcan ethnicity and the likelihood that this would color her civilian clothing (for the worse), I guess they did about as well with her clothes as could be expected.
Even so I enjoyed the shows, found Seven and T'Pol sexy, and I have to admit they carried it off.
Given that the obesity rate is skyrocketing at an unbelievable rate, I speculate that, by the 24th century, Spandex will be the only thing that will fit anyone.
But they aren't just for women. What made me think of this was the Next Generation episode where the guy was progressing into another evolutionary stage of his people. He wore a white one (brave). They seem to crop up all the time in the Trek universe.
Only The Avengers had more of them.
Only The Avengers had more of them.
Yeah, the message of that episode was totally lost on me thanks to having to see a dude's dong smashed up against the inside of his translucent white catsuit in almost every scene.
I suppose Bele and Lokai were no strangers to the dance belt either. What is it about "message" episodes and men in tights?
IIRC, T'Pol's outfit had the same cut as the top half of Sakonna's uniform in DS9. The bottom section was a skirt, but the colour, design, skin-tightness and fabric style of the top half seemed to set a standard for (female) Vulcan shipboard costumes.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Sakonna
The unitard thing is easily explained, it's a Hollywood cliche'. I can't say where the origin of this begins and such things never have just one but by the 60s any future society depicted on film nearly always had the mass of people wearing those things. Hollywood has it's visual language just like comics or anything else and they are loath to give them up.
And Jeri Ryan would look sexy even in a potato sack!
And Jeri Ryan would look sexy even in a potato sack!
Gene Roddenberry's original vision for Star Trek was actually for humans to have embraced nudity as a means of attire. When this was rejected on practical grounds, he reworked his idea to postulate that, by the 24th century, humans will have done away with gender roles in clothing (hence the dude in the Starfleet skirt in Encounter at Farpoint). When this idea was overturned, Space Spandex was pretty much all that was left.
I am pretty sure that toga's were around for longer than 131 years, yet they eventually fell out of fashion.
But - you're mistaken in thinking denim had "[fallen] out exsistence in the future". Kirk and Bones wear them on their camping trip in Star Trek V.
Something definitely changed in the world of civilian fashion between Kirk's era and Picard's era. Check our the getups everyone's wearing in Search for Spock, then compare that to what we see on DS9. We went from hip couture to space spandex overnight.
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One of the functions of Geordi's visor is an "eye bleach" filter.
I attended a sci-fi convention many, many moons ago when the network was threatening to kill the "V" series. About half the convention-goers showed up in red "Visitor" uniforms to show their support. You've heard the adage "spandex is a privilege, not a right." Well, I could have used Geordi's visor. The future will probably look more like WALL*E than STAR TREK or BUCK ROGERS.
I attended a sci-fi convention many, many moons ago when the network was threatening to kill the "V" series. About half the convention-goers showed up in red "Visitor" uniforms to show their support. You've heard the adage "spandex is a privilege, not a right." Well, I could have used Geordi's visor. The future will probably look more like WALL*E than STAR TREK or BUCK ROGERS.
Let's not forget the eye bleach we all needed after being subjected to the sight of Will Decker's genitalia being smashed up against the inside of his TMP catsuit...
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"Star Trek Civilian" usually looked pretty ugly, especially the sweaters and dresses.
Togas are rather interesting... of course they wouldn't make a comeback in our society, since for one thing there would be the cry of "OMG, that man is wearing a DRESS!!!" and for another, they're really fussy garments to drape correctly. They're not very practical - I can't see a bunch of men wearing togas going about their daily business in modern society without tripping over them, getting them caught in elevator doors, and finding it impossible to carry stuff. And what kind of footwear could they use that wouldn't look incredibly stupid? Sandals are impractical in our climate for much of the year.
Mind you, the class of people in ancient Rome who wore togas also had slaves to do all the practical physical stuff for them anyway, including draping them correctly in the first place.
Considering that it was supposed to be 75-80 years between Kirk and Picard, that was hardly "overnight."
You mean Will Decker. Matt Decker was his father.
And yeah, that's one camera shot that never should have made it anywhere but the cutting room floor.
Ah, yes, I stand corrected. I was never a big fan of TMP. Edited OP accordingly. I still maintain that a scrotum was never something I ever expected or wanted to see on Star Trek, however... :-P
Actually, ZapBrannigan said the opposite.
Capt. Pike also wore a blue denim outfit in "The Cage."
Playing devil's advocate here for a moment, since The Cage never aired, I don't know that it can be considered canon. Plus, the scene you reference was only a Talosian illusion.
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