The perfect film?
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I don't know. I still can't get over Indy's survival clinging to a sub's periscope. And his role becomes' awfully passive after the truck chase.
Just for that, here's another one for ya:Y'all are forgetting an important one:
Ugh.
Yeah, that's what sinks Raiders for me as a "perfect" film.
Regarding some other nominations, here are examples of nits I have with them.
- Star Wars (1977). No establishing shot of the first Star Destroyer that was encountered while escaping Tatooine prior to the arrival of two more. Another is that Red 6/Porkins is addressed in the chatter, after having been prominently destroyed earlier.
- The Empire Strikes Back. The Falcon can get from Hoth to Bespin without a hyperdrive (recently discussed on the board). Another is that no version of Luke's fall into the garbage chute after his duel with Vader has been perfectly satisfactory to me. Perhaps adding smoke to see the air currents could have helped tremendously, say in the form of streamers provided by Cloud City engineers just for the purpose of gaging how objects will get sucked into the chutes. (You're welcome, Disney!)
- Alien. If Harry Dean Stanton's character had seen just one horror movie in his life, he would have known not to go off alone to look for the cat.
- Aliens. I never bought that the colony didn't know about the derelict ship until Burke told them. It wasn't exactly buried, and it had this beacon that the Nostromo could pick up from way out in space....
- 2001. The phase of the Earth flips during the trip to the Moon.
I can't call them perfect, but all of these films are favorites of mine.
After the truck chase? Heck, Indie has no impact on the plot at all if you think about it.
As I've said before...
Indy and Marcus tell of the legend that no army that carries the Ark before it can be defeated... so it's possible that, had the Nazis gotten the Ark, opened it and had everyone nearby wiped out, they would have learned their lesson, kept it closed, and carried it to victory - thus making Indy's efforts world-saving.
But you want a movie where the humans unequivocally do the winning, watch The Mummy.
Lawrence of Arabia
Psycho
Vertigo
North by Northwest
The Spy Who Came in from the Cold
Le Retour de Martin Guerre
Slap Shot
The Big Lebowski
Withnail and I
Casablanca
Les Vacances de M. Hulot
The Incredibles
These are all films (though not an exhaustive list) I would leave exactly as is (whether they are "perfect" is something I'll leave to others to debate).
Psycho
Vertigo
North by Northwest
The Spy Who Came in from the Cold
Le Retour de Martin Guerre
Slap Shot
The Big Lebowski
Withnail and I
Casablanca
Les Vacances de M. Hulot
The Incredibles
These are all films (though not an exhaustive list) I would leave exactly as is (whether they are "perfect" is something I'll leave to others to debate).
As an example of the best that cinema can be I'd say the first Godfather film. Plot, script, cast, setting/staging, cinematography and score - all perfect ! Not my favourite film, but flawless.
Less perfect, but I'd still not change a thing - Star Wars (now called A New Hope), The Terminator and Aliens.
Less perfect, but I'd still not change a thing - Star Wars (now called A New Hope), The Terminator and Aliens.
As I've said before...Indy and Marcus tell of the legend that no army that carries the Ark before it can be defeated... so it's possible that, had the Nazis gotten the Ark, opened it and had everyone nearby wiped out, they would have learned their lesson, kept it closed, and carried it to victory - thus making Indy's efforts world-saving.
But you want a movie where the humans unequivocally do the winning, watch The Mummy.
So basically, Indie called in the marines -off screen at the very end.
As I've said before...Indy and Marcus tell of the legend that no army that carries the Ark before it can be defeated... so it's possible that, had the Nazis gotten the Ark, opened it and had everyone nearby wiped out, they would have learned their lesson, kept it closed, and carried it to victory - thus making Indy's efforts world-saving.
But you want a movie where the humans unequivocally do the winning, watch The Mummy.
So basically, Indie called in the marines -off screen at the very end.
Good thing he remembers to close his eyes then.
After seeing The Iron Giant when it was first released I recall a discussion I had with friends. We all loved it, but there was disagreement about whether there should be a sequel. I and another friend argued the film didn't need a sequel. We didn't need to know the Giant's origin. On the other side another friend argued for a sequel.
Well because the film realized limited commercial success (despite wide acclaim) the likelihood of a sequel became essentially zilch, which was fine by me.
Well because the film realized limited commercial success (despite wide acclaim) the likelihood of a sequel became essentially zilch, which was fine by me.
Die Hard
Shaun of the Dead
Shaun of the Dead
Encino Man
Absolutely no sequel required. It ended on the perfect note and I don't need to know what happens next because it's obvious.
As for the Giant's origin, that was meant to be told in the film in the form of an abstract dream (picked up on Dean's TV set while they were all asleep.) The sequence was never fully animated, but appears in story board form as a feature on the Special Edition DVD. Brad Bird has I think hinted that they might go back and finish it for the inevitable BluRay, so here's hoping.
The short version: he's a war machine left adrift in space after the planet he was fighting on (presumably the homeworld of his creators) blew up in the midst of a war in which he and hundreds light him were the foot soldiers. The implication is that it was some ultimate doomsday bomb, which given the setting and themes of the movie shouldn't be too shocking, especially given the resonence with the ending.
See, if it was illustrated like that in broad strokes it probably wouldn't hurt the film as is. That said it isn't really needed because you still get the idea that he is/was some sort of alien weapon from what we see in the film we got.
Absolutely no sequel required. It ended on the perfect note and I don't need to know what happens next because it's obvious.
As for the Giant's origin, that was meant to be told in the film in the form of an abstract dream (picked up on Dean's TV set while they were all asleep.) The sequence was never fully animated, but appears in story board form as a feature on the Special Edition DVD. Brad Bird has I think hinted that they might go back and finish it for the inevitable BluRay, so here's hoping.
The short version: he's a war machine left adrift in space after the planet he was fighting on (presumably the homeworld of his creators) blew up in the midst of a war in which he and hundreds light him were the foot soldiers. The implication is that it was some ultimate doomsday bomb, which given the setting and themes of the movie shouldn't be too shocking, especially given the resonence with the ending.
Ghost Busters
RoboCop
Back to the Future
Die Hard
Raising Arizona
The Invention of Lying
Terminator 2: Judgment Day
RoboCop
Back to the Future
Die Hard
Raising Arizona
The Invention of Lying
Terminator 2: Judgment Day
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