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Is Christmas still celebrated in the Federation?

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Most probably, Christian traditions, such as Christmas, will have been banned long ago due to their 'offensive' nature. In all likelihood, the only religion not outlawed by the 24th century will be Islam.
What makes you think so?

Current trends.

Ah, a message favoring the hilarious "War on Christmas" (that most secularists celebrate as well) and displaying rampant Islamaphobia.

Lovely.
 
What makes you think so?

Current trends.

Ah, a message favoring the hilarious "War on Christmas" (that most secularists celebrate as well) and displaying rampant Islamaphobia.

Lovely.

You just made PicardSpeedo's point for him:
Rampant Islamaphobia? For an affirmation that must be generously interpreted in order to extract from it hostility toward islam? Really?

When was the last time someone screamed 'rampant' Christianophobia; how often does this happen? For affirmations that are direct attacks against christianity and its belief system - nothing veiled or intrepretable?

As said - the more militant religion ALWAYS wins out. It always converts or tames the population more effectively.
 
Current trends.

Ah, a message favoring the hilarious "War on Christmas" (that most secularists celebrate as well) and displaying rampant Islamaphobia.

Lovely.

You just made PicardSpeedo's point for him:
Rampant Islamaphobia? For an affirmation that must be generously interpreted in order to extract from it hostility toward islam? Really?

When was the last time someone screamed 'rampant' Christianophobia; how often does this happen? For affirmations that are direct attacks against christianity and its belief system - nothing veiled or intrepretable?

As said - the more militant religion ALWAYS wins out. It always converts or tames the population more effectively.
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Current trends.

Ah, a message favoring the hilarious "War on Christmas" (that most secularists celebrate as well) and displaying rampant Islamaphobia.

Lovely.

You just made PicardSpeedo's point for him:
Rampant Islamaphobia? For an affirmation that must be generously interpreted in order to extract from it hostility toward islam? Really?

When was the last time someone screamed 'rampant' Christianophobia; how often does this happen? For affirmations that are direct attacks against christianity and its belief system - nothing veiled or intrepretable?

As said - the more militant religion ALWAYS wins out. It always converts or tames the population more effectively.

No, it's pretty defiantly clear what he was going for.

Besides, who's attacking Christianity in any seriousness, given that it is the majority religion in the US and Europe?
 
Ah, a message favoring the hilarious "War on Christmas" (that most secularists celebrate as well) and displaying rampant Islamaphobia.

Lovely.

You just made PicardSpeedo's point for him:
Rampant Islamaphobia? For an affirmation that must be generously interpreted in order to extract from it hostility toward islam? Really?

When was the last time someone screamed 'rampant' Christianophobia; how often does this happen? For affirmations that are direct attacks against christianity and its belief system - nothing veiled or intrepretable?

As said - the more militant religion ALWAYS wins out. It always converts or tames the population more effectively.

No, it's pretty defiantly clear what he was going for.

Then you should have no problem putting in words what 'he was going for' vis a vis islam.

Besides, who's attacking Christianity in any seriousness, given that it is the majority religion in the US and Europe?
In Europe, christianity is all but dead - as such, nobody's attacking it.
In SUA - you really need to read up on red states vs blue states. Christianity, creationism, etc.
 
Besides, who's attacking Christianity in any seriousness, given that it is the majority religion in the US and Europe?

It is also a major religion in South America. :techman:

But why let facts get in the way of Christians who want to nail themselves up on a cross?
 
You just made PicardSpeedo's point for him:
Rampant Islamaphobia? For an affirmation that must be generously interpreted in order to extract from it hostility toward islam? Really?

When was the last time someone screamed 'rampant' Christianophobia; how often does this happen? For affirmations that are direct attacks against christianity and its belief system - nothing veiled or intrepretable?

As said - the more militant religion ALWAYS wins out. It always converts or tames the population more effectively.

No, it's pretty defiantly clear what he was going for.

Then you should have no problem putting in words what 'he was going for' vis a vis islam.
It's clear. Amoral secularists are pushing to have Christianity removed from power, but protect the militant muslims. I've heard this refrain a thousand times.

Besides, who's attacking Christianity in any seriousness, given that it is the majority religion in the US and Europe?
In Europe, christianity is all but dead - as such, nobody's attacking it.
In SUA - you really need to read up on red states vs blue states. Christianity, creationism, etc.

I'm part of the most mistrusted minority in the US. No, I really don't.
 
Most probably, Christian traditions, such as Christmas, will have been banned long ago due to their 'offensive' nature. In all likelihood, the only religion not outlawed by the 24th century will be Islam.

Firstly, the paranoid belief that Islam is somehow going to take over the world is fit for the same kind of person today that a hundred years ago would have been the crudest, foulest form of anti-Semite. Just in case you're curious at all about how this kind of rhetoric makes you look*.

Secondly, the paranoid belief that "Christian" traditions such as Christmas are particularly "offensive" to any significant number of people is an even less flattering form of silliness that basically announces to the world that you will swallow anything at all that Bill O'Reilly tells you. So, that's also something you might want to take into account.

Thirdly, the groups historically and presently known to actually have a problem with Christmas have largely been hardcore Christians, such as the Puritans who banned it in the mid-17th century; both because the holiday is scripturally unjustified and because it has traditionally encouraged un-spiritual revelry, frivolity and (today) conspicuous consumption. Which would suggest that any future in which Christmas were really banned would likely be one where militant Christianity was more successful, not less so.

(* Talking about Christianity being "outlawed" in favour of Islam is, aside from being woefully paranoid, pure bathos; not that an ideology that contemplates outlawing religion is impossible to imagine, but any such ideology would target Islam as much as anyone else if not moreso. And if you're projecting Islam's current status as fastest-growing religion on a straight uninterrupted line into the future, you are being a silly goose. Demographic trends do not work that simply.)
 
Manticore

Sure 'they' haven't.
Do you have any arguments - beyond blatant denial?

Sure. Fundamentalist Christians (not, by any stretch of the imagination, all Christians - nor the only ones attacking these groups, just in the greatest numbers) are the ones attacking:

Muslims
Homosexuals
Atheists

The moderates in these groups - which are the majority - just want to live in a tolerant society. Asking for or demanding equal rights is not an attack on Christianity, nor is it an attempt to ban Christianity. Simply put, we want to live our lives by our morality, not a morality from a religion that we do not follow. For the most part, we want equal rights for all. Christians included.

And for the record, I celebrate Christmas. It's one of my favorite holidays. I hope that its celebration goes forward into the 23rd-and-a-half century and beyond!
 
Manticore

Sure 'they' haven't.
Do you have any arguments - beyond blatant denial?

Sure. Fundamentalist Christians (not, by any stretch of the imagination, all Christians - nor the only ones attacking these groups, just in the greatest numbers) are the ones attacking:

Muslims
Homosexuals
Atheists

The moderates in these groups - which are the majority - just want to live in a tolerant society. Asking for or demanding equal rights is not an attack on Christianity, nor is it an attempt to ban Christianity. For the most part, we want equal rights for all - Christians included.

Yes. Fundamentalist christians are attacking the secularist view (mostly represented by the blue states) + assorted groups the bible tells them not to like.
The blue states + assorted groups are fighting back, attacking fundamentalist christians. And nobody calls them christianophobes - you need to look in a dictionary to encounter this word.
Fortunately, US christian fundamentalists are amateurs at the militant business.
 
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