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Is Christmas still celebrated in the Federation?

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Q also turned Voyager into what was pretty much a Christmas ornament at one point. Also, the "Christmas" scene in Generations, no?
 
Christmas is still celebrated by the Federation, but in the future, it's called Life Day.
 
In one of Alan Dean Foster's adaptations of the animated series, he wrote that the Enterprise had a large evergreen tree in stasis, every year it was brought out, members of the crew decorated it, and there was a celebration of Christmas aboard the ship.
However, Vulcans do not voluntarily pollute their bloodstreams with odd combinations of ethyl alcohol molecules. :vulcan:
 
One of the kids gets a plastic spaceship for a present too. (An Aliens toy, to be exact.)
 
Christmas is probably observed privately by Christian people.

But you probably don't see Christmas decorations up all around the city anymore.
 
Maybe there's a Kahlessmass, or a Prophetsmass, or the Vorta/Jem'Hadar celebrate Foundersmass haha..

But then didn't Phlox say he visited the Vatican? Unless the United Earth government kept it for show and/or posterity, or Christianity still exists in that era.
 
First of all, you don't have to be a Christian to celebrate Christmas.

I'm not a Christian and I celebrate Christmas... sans the Church visit. But there's still all the family, tree, food, and gift stuff. Christmas is not exlusively a Christian thing, in a broader sense it's a Western cultural thing. And Western culture seems to be very well alive in the 24th century.

How many actual members of a Christian Church exist in the 24th century is anybody's guess and I guess TPTB will always refrain from giving you a canonical number here. (If it's low number it could offend a lot viewers, if it's a high number it clashes with the previously established, Roddenberry-influenced depictions of religion... or lack thereof.)

Kasidy Yates seemed to have been raised in a religious household considering her line that her mother would have preferred a minister for her wedding. Not sure whether O'Brien's line "if you ask me, it's an ungodly hour to go to war, you can quote me on that" from "Tears of the Prophets" could be interpreted as a sign for religious beliefs. After all, O'Brien is from Ireland and if someone asked me to name a people who would remain Christians till the 24th century it's probably the Irish. :p
 
If Christmas has become a secular holiday celebrated by all religions in the 24th century, it's probably no longer referred to as Christmas. ;) And most likely observed by just getting together with family, not by the ritual purchase of gifts, and the ritual pummeling of fellow shoppers to get the best toys four weeks prior.

I tend to think religion still exists but religious intolerance does not, and religious people no longer put literal interpretation of their texts before scientifically proven facts.
 
In one of Alan Dean Foster's adaptations of the animated series, he wrote that the Enterprise had a large evergreen tree in stasis, every year it was brought out, members of the crew decorated it, and there was a celebration of Christmas aboard the ship.
However, Vulcans do not voluntarily pollute their bloodstreams with odd combinations of ethyl alcohol molecules. :vulcan:

And Spock may be allergic to nutmeg, too. :vulcan:
 
I tend to think religion still exists but religious intolerance does not, and religious people no longer put literal interpretation of their texts before scientifically proven facts.
But will one species current set of scientific "proven facts" trump another species (or groups) "proven facts" on the same subject? One of Star Trek's themes is the on going acquisition of information. Long held scientific hypotheses on a wide number of subjects will be replaced in time, as the new information is discovered, and also as new interpretations of existing information are formed.

Many of Humanities current batch of "facts" will be tomorrow's historical amusements.


:)
 
Everyone in the universe celebrates Christmas.

There's even a town called Christmas.

Better known as 'Trenzalore,' I'd imagine...

Maybe there's a Kahlessmass, or a Prophetsmass, or the Vorta/Jem'Hadar celebrate Foundersmass haha..

But then didn't Phlox say he visited the Vatican? Unless the United Earth government kept it for show and/or posterity, or Christianity still exists in that era.

Don't the Bajorans have the Bomb Festival or something along those lines, where everybody gets together to burn little bits of paper, and then, inevitably, they get attacked by terrorists? Pretty sure there was a DS9 episode about that.
 
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