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The gurgling sound of death!

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Fleet Captain
Fleet Captain
I just watched the documentary Food, Inc. and there were some alarming things brought up. One of the things that stuck in my head was of a scene on a farm, where the chickens were being prepared. Basically, they grab a chicken out of the cage, drop them into a funnel, head first, and then slit their throats. You could hear the gurgling sounds of death as the chicken died on camera.

This got me thinking, what would happen if supermarkets went away? Just, hypothetically, if this happened how would you cope? That scene keeps playing in my head, but chickens are delicious! :drool:

I don't know. Could you make a bloodthirsty violent kill, should such a scenario happened? Eventually, we'd all turn into savages, but for the first few weeks, what would that be like? Would many starve, due to the sheer horror of killing so viciously?

More horrific, in the city, there would only be a choice of cats, dogs, rats, and birds to hunt. You can forget about catching pigeons without guns, so that leaves cats, dogs, and rats. Can you kill and eat any of these to survive?
 
More horrific, in the city, there would only be a choice of cats, dogs, rats, and birds to hunt. You can forget about catching pigeons without guns, so that leaves cats, dogs, and rats. Can you kill and eat any of these to survive?

There are these things called vegetables.
 
What vegetables? I live in the city. There are no farms here. I get all my veggies from the supermarkets. Who am I going to pay to prepare meats for me? Are you saying hire a hunter?
 
Self-preservation is - arguably - the most powerful instinct of all. If I still ate meat and depended on it enough, I suppose I could eventually bring myself to kill for it. But there would be a lot of waste during that learning curve and all of these animals have parasites of one kind or another. It would pose my Immune System one hell of a challenge! So, there is that to carefully weigh and consider: at what point does becoming infested with larvae become more objectionable than picking cat meat and fur from betwixt my teeth? Not sure I ever want to be in that position ... thankfully, I've eschewed meat(s).
 
^But if you live in the city, your access to vegetables disappear as well. What then; will you eat grass and leaves? I know there are farmers markets around, but I only know the location of only one off the top of my head and its small, but then that would count as a supermarket, now wouldn't it? We're talking self-sufficiency here.

One day, there's going to be a catastrophe (Katrina). What then? I just wonder about it.
 
Self-preservation is - arguably - the most powerful instinct of all. If I still ate meat and depended on it enough, I suppose I could eventually bring myself to kill for it. But there would be a lot of waste during that learning curve and all of these animals have parasites of one kind or another. It would pose my Immune System one hell of a challenge! So, there is that to carefully weigh and consider: at what point does becoming infested with larvae become more objectionable than picking cat meat and fur from betwixt my teeth? Not sure I ever want to be in that position ... thankfully, I've eschewed meat(s).

Just cook it really really well. Also, drain it for a couple days.
 
I would just go to a farm and buy it there.

Or it would be like before supermarkets and we'd have butchers, bakers and candle stick makers!

Yes, but those things take time to come about. These are the initial weeks, after supermarkets have been destroyed. I guess this is a Katrina level event, we're talking about here, which would mean no farms either. No one's going to be hunting for you.
 
^But if you live in the city, your access to vegetables disappear as well. What then; will you eat grass and leaves? I know there are farmers markets around, but I only know the location of only one off the top of my head and its small, but then that would count as a supermarket, now wouldn't it? We're talking self-sufficiency here.

One day, there's going to be a catastrophe (Katrina). What then? I just wonder about it.

I can grow vegetables just about anywhere. Even a city has soil, and seeds are easy to acquire.
 
Though I would rather eat a farm animal if it came to it I would eat my cats. However I do know where some cows are, they are not my cows but perhaps I would be a bad person and go slay one, drag it back to my house and spend a few days processing it. Of course I would need help, they are heavy.

I do have 40 kg of dried beans in my garage though so I think it might take a while to get to that. Of course I might not choose to use so much clean water cooking them if water was scarce. Still it rains all the time here so let's just pretend water isn't too scarce, though no bathing except for standing in the rain naked.

I would immediately start planting stuff, traveling far and wide to obtain canned food and stripping the forest bare of bush food. I would probably do the cans first, plant at night and only do the forest if I had no can runs for the day as there are only so many ferns you can eat.
 
I would just go to a farm and buy it there.

Or it would be like before supermarkets and we'd have butchers, bakers and candle stick makers!

Yes, but those things take time to come about. These are the initial weeks, after supermarkets have been destroyed. I guess this is a Katrina level event, we're talking about here, which would mean no farms either. No one's going to be hunting for you.

Ah right, got ya. So you're thinking of some form of global catastrophic event?

Watch this film then to find out what would happen.
 
Just cook it really really well. Also, drain it for a couple days.
... fergetit.

Insects make excellent table fare, I'm told. Find a fat locust. A chrysalis is easy pickens, as well. It's also my understanding that McDonald's uses worm meat in their burgers, and I'm told Mickey D's burgers are quite tasty! Eating stray pets, squirrels and pigeons is not the only alternative! There are ... other ... options.
 
But you can only eat so many bugs and if you are feeding a family the amount of hours catching all those bugs would be.. well unless it was cicada season it wouldn't work.

I do have TONS of snails, I could probably fill a couple cereal bowls with those. I will add that to my list, get up before dawn and get snails off dew covered areas. So I have beans and snails.
 
I wouldn't have any problem eating them. Boil briefly, butter or salt.

Human? No. That would be an extreme survival situation, would be boiling my boots before it came to that.
 
Having once burned my finger on a soldering iron, I can reassure you that cooked human smells like chicken. KFC to be exact.
 
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