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J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay hired to write Trek 3 with Orci

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The Hollywood Reporter reports that J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay have been hired to write the next Trek film along with Robert Orci. You can read the story here.
 
So 2 dudes with no prior writing credits (imdb lists ST3 as their first) are co-writing the movie. And someone who has only directed one low budget movie may direct the movie. Not what I expected, lets hope they are all very talented.
 
These guys really have zero experience and they're co-writing a $170million blockbuster? This does not inspire confidence.
 
These guys really have zero experience and they're co-writing a $170million blockbuster? This does not inspire confidence.
They are buddies with Orci who has the experience. You don't need to have already written scripts (or better: sold scripts) to write a big budget film script. What counts is the ideas and drafts they discussed with Orci & Co. People talk to each other.
 
Yes, because all the great writers we know these days were never unknown. They were born with the stats greatbigasswriter tattoed on their heads. :rolleyes:

FFS, not a word on paper yet, and some people are already asuming it's gonna suck because of two writers we've never heard about. Has it occured to anyone that perhaps this is the result of two months of heavy back and forth pitching of ideas, to which Abrams and co said 'holy shit, you guys have some amazing talent that we need to exploit?'.

Just because we haven't heard of them before, doesn't mean they're bad..... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Yes, because all the great writers we know these days were never unknown. They were born with the stats greatbigasswriter tattoed on their heads. :rolleyes:

FFS, not a word on paper yet, and some people are already asuming it's gonna suck because of two writers we've never heard about. Has it occured to anyone that perhaps this is the result of two months of heavy back and forth pitching of ideas, to which Abrams and co said 'holy shit, you guys have some amazing talent that we need to exploit?'.

Just because we haven't heard of them before, doesn't mean they're bad..... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

People have to have something to bitch about for the next three years. They don't have experience people bitch, they have experience people bitch about what they've already been involved with.

I'm all for giving new people a chance. Just wish TPTB would've picked me. :sigh:
 
Yes, because all the great writers we know these days were never unknown. They were born with the stats greatbigasswriter tattoed on their heads. :rolleyes:

FFS, not a word on paper yet, and some people are already asuming it's gonna suck because of two writers we've never heard about. Has it occured to anyone that perhaps this is the result of two months of heavy back and forth pitching of ideas, to which Abrams and co said 'holy shit, you guys have some amazing talent that we need to exploit?'.

Just because we haven't heard of them before, doesn't mean they're bad..... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

People have to have something to bitch about for the next three years. They don't have experience people bitch, they have experience people bitch about what they've already been involved with.

I'm all for giving new people a chance. Just wish TPTB would've picked me. :sigh:


I guess that's it exactly. Sometimes I feel that for people that loves a show that was all about open minded, fans seem to have a very narrow view.
 
There always has to be a first time for everything. In entertainment, we have countless examples of first/early works becoming remembered as an artists best. Classic debut albums, early directorial efforts, early scripts etc.
 
It's completely possible these unknown guys will do a great job, we just have to wait and see.
I'd be more psyched and interested if the new announced writers had done something great that I really liked. With unknowns the best I can do is shrug, say ok, and wait patiently.
 
For the record I wasn't bitching, just surprised.

This actually reminds me of the writing gang for TVH. Similarly a writing duo with no previous credits was hired to work on the script for that movie, and it turned out fine (one of my favorite trek movies). Though I suspect Nick Meyer did most of the writing, as will probably be the case here with Orci.
 
so. friends of Orci? propably die hard sci fi fans like himself? maybe with knowledge of star trek canon outside of WOK unlike Lindelof? sounds good to me.
 
According to Startrek.com, these two writers were involved in an adaptation of the grapic novel "Boilerplate."

It's official: Paramount Pictures and Skydance Productions have recruited J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay to join Roberto Orci (Star Trek 2009 and Star Trek Into Darkness) in writing the next big-screen Star Trek adventure. The new Trek film will be the first produced project for Payne and McKay, who earned the embrace of J.J. Abrams and Bad Robot with their adaptation of the graphic novel Boilerplate, which is in development at Bad Robot. Alex Kurtzman, Orci's longtime writing partner, will not be involved, concentrating instead on the tandem's other in-the-works films and shows.

The third Star Trek film does not yet have a title, a release date or a director, as Abrams will be busy with Star Wars. However, the film is expected to be ready in time for Star Trek's 50th anniversary in 2016.

http://www.startrek.com/article/next-star-trek-films-writers-revealed
 
So 2 dudes with no prior writing credits (imdb lists ST3 as their first) are co-writing the movie.

These guys really have zero experience and they're co-writing a $170million blockbuster? This does not inspire confidence.

"having penned a big-screen adaptation of the graphic novel Boilerplate."

Every screenwriter has to start somewhere. Roddenberry should have refused "The Trouble With Tribbles" from that young whippersnapper, David Gerrold? Fontana should have refused "The Pirates of Orion" from that young whippersnapper, Howard Weinstein?

Wasn't it only yesterday people were chanting, "Give us someone new!" and "No more Lindeloff, no more Kurtzman!"?
 
Sounds to me like this is really Orci's show; The two junior writers are just there to get experience and gain street cred by working on a major title. Whatever input they have's gonna be minimal, and Orci won't let them get too far into canon-breaking waters.

The director announcement is the one to watch. Barring another writer's strike, the script's just gonna be clay for the director (and cast) to mold and even reshape on set or in the editing room. If no other worthy name pops up, I wonder if Orci himself might try to take a stab at it.
 
Whatever input they have's gonna be minimal, and Orci won't let them get too far into canon-breaking waters.

Slingshot 'round the sun, did you? :devil:

And "canon" for this film is now two movies, and whatever they decide to cherrypick from the related game and comics. Not much likely to be broken in there.
 
I want my prime universe back.

If enough of their audience say the same thing, do you think the producers, director and writers would listen to them? Or just go ahead with what they deign to give them? Sadly, I am sure of the latter. They know better what's good for the audience than the audience themselves.
 
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