Belz... said:What's an ethnic Sikh ? It's not an ethnicity.
If you don't like the term "ethnic Sikh" then I suppose we should come up with a different collection of letters to convey a similar idea.
You're not listening: it's NOT an ethnicity.
Belz... said:What's an ethnic Sikh ? It's not an ethnicity.
If you don't like the term "ethnic Sikh" then I suppose we should come up with a different collection of letters to convey a similar idea.
Or... we could have iguana look at the camera and read this.You're Italian, that makes you "exotic" in America.Cumberbatch is British. That's foreign for me.
The iguana_tonante Story starring Ricardo Montalban
[screen test script consists of a single line: "My name is Khan."]
My part would be played by Alan Rickman. Oh no, he's British! Canon violation!!!You're Italian, that makes you "exotic" in America.Cumberbatch is British. That's foreign for me.
The iguana_tonante Story starring Ricardo Montalban
Actually, you would just get a few puzzled looks in Italy. The only times "hispanic" is used in Italian, is when talking about the ancient Roman province of Hispania.(If I remember correctly, you call an Italian or a Spaniard Hispanic and you end up with the same offense as when you call an Austrian German, which can come to blows?)
Belz... said:What's an ethnic Sikh ? It's not an ethnicity.
If you don't like the term "ethnic Sikh" then I suppose we should come up with a different collection of letters to convey a similar idea.
You're not listening: it's NOT an ethnicity.
Cumberbatch has similar facial features, black hair, and white skin, and clean shaven.
is getting the race of the character correct more paramount than getting the best performance regardless of race?
If you don't like the term "ethnic Sikh" then I suppose we should come up with a different collection of letters to convey a similar idea.
You're not listening: it's NOT an ethnicity.
Again, if you don't have to be a follower of the Sikh religion to be considered a Sikh, then it's not just a religion. So come up with a different collection of letters to describe this phenomenon, if the term "ethnic" is unacceptable to you ( though it's accepted by at least some Sikhs ).
Anyone else completely Sikh of this conversation?
Honestly, if your proof that Sikh is an ethnic group amounts to some reporter misusing the word (as many people are wont to do with many of these terms)
Projecting your sins onto your interlocutor and hoping nobody notices.you are grasping at straws and this is getting pointless. I think you should just admit that you are wrong and get on with it instead of doubling down on your mistake.
Anyone else completely Sikh of this conversation?
I, for one, simply Khan't stand it anymore.
Is Khan's race important to either the character or the plot of the story?is getting the race of the character correct more paramount than getting the best performance regardless of race?
Only if the race is actually important to the character. As written in STID, it was not (even being Khan wasn't really important). That said, I still don't like the implications of that.
Is Khan's race important to either the character or the plot of the story?
To put it another way: Would James T. Kirk still be the same person if the character was written the same way but played by an African-American actor?
And we've still not accounted for the possibility that the studio (that was already, according to JJ, interfering on the issue of Khan) was a little jittery by the ideal of casting someone of Middle Eastern/having the appearance of Middle Eastern descent in the role of a building bombing terrorist that is threatened with drone attacks. The 9/11, Hunt For Bin Laden, and War On Terror/Drone Warfare allegories was painted on pretty thick in STID.
About studio jitters, it's likely that they'd be more concerned about casting an intelligent villain as non-white than poorly depicting them stereotypically. It's sad, but that's the case for a lot of movies.
SeerGSB said:To put it another way: Would James T. Kirk still be the same person if the character was written the same way but played by an African-American actor?
It's not exactly anything new that executives worry about the casting of non-white people.
An example that execs are afraid of black casts: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/10/george-lucas-hollywood-di_n_1197227.html
By extension, most roles (especially leading roles) are going towards white males: http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/8710
This stuff is all too frequent, and we see movies like The Lone Ranger or Prince of Persia, that show they can't be too worried about offending sensibilities.
For STID, I don't think they were worried about stereotypes because they were never looking to hire actors from that region in the first place, but rather someone who looked like Montalban. The role only went to a white person when they were unsatisfied with all of the Latino auditions, which is kinda weird in itself.
Fine, but you specifically referred to the casting of intelligent villains, and I was wondering if you had examples of intelligent villain roles disproportionately going to whites.
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