The Doctor Who Mythos

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  1. Captain_Amasov

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    The Eight Doctor also mentions that Time Lords can change species when they regenerate in the movie, so that particular life of his being half-human wouldn't be that unusual, especially since the regeneration was a difficult one.

    Still, would their ability to change species be associated with the Eight Doctor or the Forth? We see Romana appear as different species earlier when she changes after all.
     
  2. Green Lantern

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    I have a feeling when he said change species is just the look of the body. Most timelords look human as that seems to be the default look, but Romana tried on alternate species "skins", but she was still a time lady, just had the appearance of another species. But I think the Doctor is half human, not just putting on a half human skin in the film as that would make no sense.
     
  3. Captain_Amasov

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    I have no idea why I said Eight Doctor, twice. :confused:
     
  4. Christopher

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    But he would've had to program the Eye of Harmony security system to respond to a human retinal pattern before he regenerated, since he had no opportunity to do so afterward. So evidently the movie's intent was that he'd always been half-human.
     
  5. Captain_Amasov

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    The Doctor mentioned that the eye hadn't been opened in over seven hundred years, he even asked The Master how did he manage to do so when no one had been able to before. Even then it required a fully human retina to open it, so The Doctor being half-human wouldn't have let him open it anyway.

    The point of the half-human thing doesn't make sense in regards to the Eye of Harmony because The Doctor would have needed to be fully human to open it. It feels much more likely that the TARDIS itself changed the "lock" on the eye knowing the kind of "strays" that The Doctor likes to pick up to travel with him.
     
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  6. Timewalker

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    The Third Doctor used a Venusian lullaby to soothe the Monster of Peladon.

    Please add in the Time Ladies for the Fourth Doctor. We met several on Gallifrey, and then Romana became a Companion.

    The Fifth Doctor DID have a sonic screwdriver - in fact he made a point of complaining about it in the episode where it was destroyed, saying he felt like he'd just lost a friend.
     
  7. The Mirrorball Man

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    Time Ladies are just female Time Lords, not a different concept, in my opinion.

    First Doctor
    The Doctor
    The TARDIS
    The TARDIS is sentient
    The TARDIS is obsolete
    The Doctor can't steer the TARDIS
    Chameleon circuit
    The Time Vortex
    Psychic powers
    Companions
    Susan
    Regeneration
    Daleks
    Cybermen
    Skaro
    Historicals

    Second Doctor
    Time Lords
    UNIT
    Sonic screwdriver
    Jelly babies
    The 500 year diary
    Ice Warriors
    The Great Intelligence
    Brigadier Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart

    Third Doctor
    Gallifrey
    Bessie & the Whomobile
    Venusian aikido
    The Master
    Omega
    Autons
    Silurians
    Sontarans
    Sarah Jane Smith
    Multi-Doctor stories

    Fourth Doctor
    Regeneration limits
    Gift of language
    K9
    Zygons
    Davros
    Rassilon
    The Matrix
    The Guardians of Time
    The Time Agency
    The Eye of Harmony
    The cloister bell

    Fifth Doctor
    Heightened taste buds
    Brainy specs
    Eternals
    Companions' private lives

    Sixth Doctor
    The Rani
    The Valeyard

    Seventh Doctor
    Skaro's destruction

    Eighth Doctor
    Romance
    Half-human

    Ninth Doctor
    The Time War
    Last of the Time Lords
    Psychic paper
    Vortex manipulator
    Deadlock seals
    Bad Wolf
    The Shadow Proclamation
    Captain Jack Harkness

    Tenth Doctor
    Fixed points in time
    Timey wimey plots
    Desktop themes
    Closing the TARDIS doors by the snap of fingers
    Torchwood
    The Weeping Angels
    Oods
    Judoons
    River Song
    Christmas specials

    Eleventh Doctor
    The Doctor speaks with babies and animals
    Regeneration can affect gender
    The Silence
    The Paternoster Gang
    Trenzalore
    The War Doctor
    The Curator
    Kate Lethbridge-Stewart
     
  8. Timewalker

    Timewalker Cat-lovin', Star Trekkin' Time Lady Premium Member

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    Then why does Susan rate a specific listing when she's "just a female Time Lord" AND just another Companion?

    Honestly, I think it's worth mentioning that there are female Gallifreyans who are characters in the stories and also recurring characters in their own right.

    BTW, Lethbridge-Stewart's middle name is Gordon. That's mentioned on more than one occasion.
     
  9. The Mirrorball Man

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    She's not: she's the Doctor's granddaughter. He mentions her regularly and some might say that she's the main reason why the Doctor likes to travel with young women.
     
  10. Timewalker

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    When does he mention her "regularly"? :vulcan:
     
  11. The Mirrorball Man

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    He mentioned her recently in "Fear Her", "Smith and Jones" and the "Rings of Akhaten".
     
  12. Timewalker

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    Oh, right. Three times in 50 years, outside of The Five Doctors, is "regularly."
     
  13. The Mirrorball Man

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    That's three times in seven years actually.
     
  14. JoeZhang

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    Plus she was in the Five Doctors and Dimensions in Time and is the only companion to get her own spoof documentary (Whatever happened to Susan Foreman?) - that is leaving aside what I mentioned above, she's arguably more important in how she means different things to different fan groups and what it tells us about their relationship with Doctor Who.
     
  15. Timewalker

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    Those seven years happen to be part of the 50 years, so it's three times during a 50-year-period.

    I mentioned The Five Doctors. I never saw the other stuff you mention.
     
  16. The Mirrorball Man

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    I really don't know what you're trying to achieve here.
     
  17. Timewalker

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    I made a simple request regarding all the female Gallifreyans who are not Susan (since she seems to be Special somehow).

    The show is 50 years old, not 7. Please stop trying to make this character seem more "referenced" than she really has been.
     
  18. Thestral

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    Regardless of how many references, I don't see how his granddaughter can be anything but special when you're talking about the show's mythos. The existence of female Time Lords isn't a particularly noteworthy thing in and of itself (unlike the potential gender-bending).

    His child/ren and their mother/his wife (other than Elizabeth I and River of course) would also be special but we've never met them or learned their name.

    Speaking of, the Ponds should probably be put in under the 11th since they're his parents-in-law. And Jenny under the 10th as his clone/daughter.

    10th - regeneration "continues" for some time during which serious injuries continue to be healed. 11th - regeneration energy can be shared/passed between Time Lords for healing.

    A human conceived while traveling in the time vortex becomes a Time Lord - that should go under 11, though not sure how you'd word it.

    She's also alluded to in "The Empty Child" and 'appears' (as audio and a body double) in "Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS" and "The Name of the Doctor."
     
  19. Mr Awe

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    The idea of using solar engineering to power their time travel was introduced in Pertwee's The Three Doctor's. Omega was the engineer, so he's more important than just a typical villian.

    Mr Awe
     
  20. Mr Awe

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    Davison's Mawdryn Undead is time wimey. Multiple time zones and a duplicate Brigadier!

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