The Doctor Who Mythos

[Captain_Amasov]

The Eight Doctor also mentions that Time Lords can change species when they regenerate in the movie, so that particular life of his being half-human wouldn't be that unusual, especially since the regeneration was a difficult one.

Still, would their ability to change species be associated with the Eight Doctor or the Forth? We see Romana appear as different species earlier when she changes after all.

 

[Green Lantern]

The Eight Doctor also mentions that Time Lords can change species when they regenerate in the movie, so that particular life of his being half-human wouldn't be that unusual, especially since the regeneration was a difficult one.

Still, would their ability to change species be associated with the Eight Doctor or the Forth? We see Romana appear as different species earlier when she changes after all.

I have a feeling when he said change species is just the look of the body. Most timelords look human as that seems to be the default look, but Romana tried on alternate species "skins", but she was still a time lady, just had the appearance of another species. But I think the Doctor is half human, not just putting on a half human skin in the film as that would make no sense.

 

[Captain_Amasov]

I have no idea why I said Eight Doctor, twice.

 

[Christopher]

The Eight Doctor also mentions that Time Lords can change species when they regenerate in the movie, so that particular life of his being half-human wouldn't be that unusual, especially since the regeneration was a difficult one.

But he would've had to program the Eye of Harmony security system to respond to a human retinal pattern before he regenerated, since he had no opportunity to do so afterward. So evidently the movie's intent was that he'd always been half-human.

 

[Captain_Amasov]

The Eight Doctor also mentions that Time Lords can change species when they regenerate in the movie, so that particular life of his being half-human wouldn't be that unusual, especially since the regeneration was a difficult one.

But he would've had to program the Eye of Harmony security system to respond to a human retinal pattern before he regenerated, since he had no opportunity to do so afterward. So evidently the movie's intent was that he'd always been half-human.

The Doctor mentioned that the eye hadn't been opened in over seven hundred years, he even asked The Master how did he manage to do so when no one had been able to before. Even then it required a fully human retina to open it, so The Doctor being half-human wouldn't have let him open it anyway.

The point of the half-human thing doesn't make sense in regards to the Eye of Harmony because The Doctor would have needed to be fully human to open it. It feels much more likely that the TARDIS itself changed the "lock" on the eye knowing the kind of "strays" that The Doctor likes to pick up to travel with him.

 

[Timewalker]

First Doctor
The Doctor
The TARDIS
The TARDIS is sentient
The TARDIS is obsolete
The Doctor can't steer the TARDIS
Chameleon circuit
The Time Vortex
Psychic powers
Companions
Susan
Regeneration
Daleks
Cybermen
Skaro
Historicals

Second Doctor
Time Lords
UNIT
Sonic screwdriver
Jelly babies
The 500 year diary
Ice Warriors
The Great Intelligence
Brigadier Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart

Third Doctor
Gallifrey
Bessie & the Whomobile
Venusian aikido
The Master
Omega
Autons
Silurians
Sontarans
Sarah Jane Smith
Multi-Doctor stories

Fourth Doctor
Regeneration limits
Gift of language
K9
Zygons
Davros
Rassilon
The Matrix
The Guardians of Time
The Time Agency
The Eye of Harmony
The cloister bell

Fifth Doctor
Eternals
Companions' private lives

Sixth Doctor
The Rani
The Valeyard

Seventh Doctor

Eighth Doctor
Romance

Ninth Doctor
The Time War
Last of the Time Lords
Psychic paper
Vortex manipulator
Deadlock seals
Bad Wolf
The Shadow Proclamation
Captain Jack Harkness

Tenth Doctor
Fixed points in time
Torchwood
The Weeping Angels
Oods
Judoons
River Song
Christmas specials

Eleventh Doctor
The Doctor speaks with babies and animals
The Silence
The Paternoster Gang
Trenzalore
The War Doctor
The Curator
Kate Lethbridge-Stewart

The Third Doctor used a Venusian lullaby to soothe the Monster of Peladon.

Please add in the Time Ladies for the Fourth Doctor. We met several on Gallifrey, and then Romana became a Companion.

How about Skaro's destruction of The Seventh Doctor and Half Human for The Eighth Doctor? Oh, and TARDIS can change desktop for Tenth Doctor (see Time Crash). No sonic screwdriver for Fifth Doctor?

The Fifth Doctor DID have a sonic screwdriver - in fact he made a point of complaining about it in the episode where it was destroyed, saying he felt like he'd just lost a friend.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Time Ladies are just female Time Lords, not a different concept, in my opinion.

First Doctor
The Doctor
The TARDIS
The TARDIS is sentient
The TARDIS is obsolete
The Doctor can't steer the TARDIS
Chameleon circuit
The Time Vortex
Psychic powers
Companions
Susan
Regeneration
Daleks
Cybermen
Skaro
Historicals

Second Doctor
Time Lords
UNIT
Sonic screwdriver
Jelly babies
The 500 year diary
Ice Warriors
The Great Intelligence
Brigadier Alistair Lethbridge-Stewart

Third Doctor
Gallifrey
Bessie & the Whomobile
Venusian aikido
The Master
Omega
Autons
Silurians
Sontarans
Sarah Jane Smith
Multi-Doctor stories

Fourth Doctor
Regeneration limits
Gift of language
K9
Zygons
Davros
Rassilon
The Matrix
The Guardians of Time
The Time Agency
The Eye of Harmony
The cloister bell

Fifth Doctor
Heightened taste buds
Brainy specs
Eternals
Companions' private lives

Sixth Doctor
The Rani
The Valeyard

Seventh Doctor
Skaro's destruction

Eighth Doctor
Romance
Half-human

Ninth Doctor
The Time War
Last of the Time Lords
Psychic paper
Vortex manipulator
Deadlock seals
Bad Wolf
The Shadow Proclamation
Captain Jack Harkness

Tenth Doctor
Fixed points in time
Timey wimey plots
Desktop themes
Closing the TARDIS doors by the snap of fingers
Torchwood
The Weeping Angels
Oods
Judoons
River Song
Christmas specials

Eleventh Doctor
The Doctor speaks with babies and animals
Regeneration can affect gender
The Silence
The Paternoster Gang
Trenzalore
The War Doctor
The Curator
Kate Lethbridge-Stewart

 

[Timewalker]

Time Ladies are just female Time Lords, not a different concept, in my opinion.

Then why does Susan rate a specific listing when she's "just a female Time Lord" AND just another Companion?

Honestly, I think it's worth mentioning that there are female Gallifreyans who are characters in the stories and also recurring characters in their own right.

BTW, Lethbridge-Stewart's middle name is Gordon. That's mentioned on more than one occasion.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Time Ladies are just female Time Lords, not a different concept, in my opinion.

Then why does Susan rate a specific listing when she's "just a female Time Lord" AND just another Companion?

She's not: she's the Doctor's granddaughter. He mentions her regularly and some might say that she's the main reason why the Doctor likes to travel with young women.

 

[Timewalker]

Time Ladies are just female Time Lords, not a different concept, in my opinion.

Then why does Susan rate a specific listing when she's "just a female Time Lord" AND just another Companion?

She's not: she's the Doctor's granddaughter. He mentions her regularly and some might say that she's the main reason why the Doctor likes to travel with young women.

When does he mention her "regularly"?

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

When does he mention her "regularly"?

He mentioned her recently in "Fear Her", "Smith and Jones" and the "Rings of Akhaten".

 

[Timewalker]

Oh, right. Three times in 50 years, outside of The Five Doctors, is "regularly."

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Oh, right. Three times in 50 years, outside of The Five Doctors, is "regularly."

That's three times in seven years actually.

 

[JoeZhang]

Plus she was in the Five Doctors and Dimensions in Time and is the only companion to get her own spoof documentary (Whatever happened to Susan Foreman?) - that is leaving aside what I mentioned above, she's arguably more important in how she means different things to different fan groups and what it tells us about their relationship with Doctor Who.

 

[Timewalker]

Oh, right. Three times in 50 years, outside of The Five Doctors, is "regularly."

That's three times in seven years actually.

Those seven years happen to be part of the 50 years, so it's three times during a 50-year-period.

Plus she was in the Five Doctors and Dimensions in Time and is the only companion to get her own spoof documentary (Whatever happened to Susan Foreman?) - that is leaving aside what I mentioned above, she's arguably more important in how she means different things to different fan groups and what it tells us about their relationship with Doctor Who.

I mentioned The Five Doctors. I never saw the other stuff you mention.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Those seven years happen to be part of the 50 years, so it's three times during a 50-year-period.

I really don't know what you're trying to achieve here.

 

[Timewalker]

I made a simple request regarding all the female Gallifreyans who are not Susan (since she seems to be Special somehow).

The show is 50 years old, not 7. Please stop trying to make this character seem more "referenced" than she really has been.

 

[Thestral]

Regardless of how many references, I don't see how his granddaughter can be anything but special when you're talking about the show's mythos. The existence of female Time Lords isn't a particularly noteworthy thing in and of itself (unlike the potential gender-bending).

His child/ren and their mother/his wife (other than Elizabeth I and River of course) would also be special but we've never met them or learned their name.

Speaking of, the Ponds should probably be put in under the 11th since they're his parents-in-law. And Jenny under the 10th as his clone/daughter.

10th - regeneration "continues" for some time during which serious injuries continue to be healed. 11th - regeneration energy can be shared/passed between Time Lords for healing.

A human conceived while traveling in the time vortex becomes a Time Lord - that should go under 11, though not sure how you'd word it.

When does he mention her "regularly"?

He mentioned her recently in "Fear Her", "Smith and Jones" and the "Rings of Akhaten".

She's also alluded to in "The Empty Child" and 'appears' (as audio and a body double) in "Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS" and "The Name of the Doctor."

 

[Mr Awe]

The Eye of Harmony was established in the Fourth Doctor era, but as the source of all the Time Lords' power beneath the citadel on Gallifrey. The idea of there being an Eye in the TARDIS Cloister Room powering the TARDIS was a TVM invention.

It's a tiny thing, not really a major mythological development, but the Cloister Room itself and with it the Cloister Bell, can (just) come under the Fourth Doctor, having been introduced under JN-T's watch in Tom's final story Logopolis.

The idea of using solar engineering to power their time travel was introduced in Pertwee's The Three Doctor's. Omega was the engineer, so he's more important than just a typical villian.

Mr Awe

 

[Mr Awe]

"Time-wimey" plots are therefore something that could come under the Tenth Doctor era?

Davison's Mawdryn Undead is time wimey. Multiple time zones and a duplicate Brigadier!

Mr Awe