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Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Grendelsbayne, Oct 16, 2013.

  1. SeerSGB

    SeerSGB Admiral Admiral

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    The Neghvar Scimitar or a TNG era Warbird are both bigger than the Nu-Enterprise. Calling foul on large ships in Nu-Trek is just picking something to bitch about.
     
  2. Kemaiku

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    The Federation has often been shown to have the smallest ships. Finally they're about even to all the other races, people are crying foul, really?
     
  3. Harbinger

    Harbinger Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I was referring to Federation or Enterprise ships specifically, but yeah there's some crazy big things out there not even thinking about something like V'Ger alone. In fact, Abrams Trek is pretty sane and tame in that crazy kind of god-like beings/space magic/enormous ships department.
     
  4. SeerSGB

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    You want over the top Federation, you need go no further than the mushroom spacedock. Hell the Galaxy Class isn't much smaller (~100 meters shorter) than the Nu-Enterprise.

    Edit: For shits and giggles, I looked up the specs for the Odyessy Class--the class of the Enterprise-F in Star Trek Online.

    It's the MMO, sure. But come on. Big ships are pretty damn common in Trek Lore. Some of the concept art for the refit of the 1701 back when they were working on "Planet Of The Titans" turned the ship into a stardestroyer in look and size.
     
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  5. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I think we need a new name for it. They haven't made "modern Trek" for 8 years, and there's been a new Trek in town for the last 4.

    Also: Excellent song:bolian:
     
  6. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    We'll just call the new stuff "Post-Modern Trek". :techman:
     
  7. Crazy Eddie

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    And here I thought I was the only one who realized that Vulcan's Seleya class starship is over six hundred meters long.:alienblush:

    But length isn't size. As I've pointed out many times in many threads, the Galaxy class is still about 60% larger BY VOLUME tan the NuEnterprise and uses its internal space a lot more efficiently; the Galaxy's small nacelles are a relatively small portion of that volume and don't contribute to the length at all, and its engineering spaces are a lot more compact. Compare with NuEnterprise, of which 200 meters of its length is just the extension of the nacelles and the entire secondary hull is entirely filled with shuttlebays, cargo bays, torpedo magazines and engine machinery.

    The Galaxy class isn't just BIGGER, it has two to three times the habitable volume in addition to having better technology to make that volume more useful.
     
  8. Kemaiku

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    Given how thin many parts of the Vengeance are, I'm willing to bet the Galaxy class is beefier in sheer bulk than her too. So the Galaxy still claims the title of biggest Federation starship.
     
  9. BillJ

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    The Galaxy doesn't count. The only Prime universe ships that count are the ones smaller than the Abramsverse Enterprise. :lol:
     
  10. Kemaiku

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    I love how the Power Wall (ugh, that name) actually shows the Enterprise has a tiny sister ship of nearly identical design at the 300m size and still they all bitch. :lol:
     
  11. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Show me a room on the Enterprise-D anywhere near as big as Hanger 7 on the Vengeance.
     
  12. Ovation

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    In volume or length? What about Stellar Cartography (never to be seen again)?
     
  13. Kemaiku

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    The Big-D's main shuttle bay in the saucer can hold 30 shuttlecraft with room to move around, including 2 Runabouts.

    Then there's the Sea Ops, or whatever it's called, two massive tanks each holding a Killer Whale with plenty of room for it to swim.

    That's two.
     
  14. Gecko of Gorn

    Gecko of Gorn Commodore Commodore

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    In the 1980's, they were huge.
    In the 1990's, they started to get smaller and more "organic" looking.
    Then, in the 2000's and onwards they started getting bigger again....

    We are talking about cellphones, right? :wtf:
     
  15. Crazy Eddie

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    The main shuttlebay would count if we ever SAW it.
     
  16. Opus

    Opus Commodore Commodore

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    So I'm not sure I understand - Why are people complaining again that Trek's ships are too big or too small? Considering other Sci-Fi franchises, Trek's ships are downright puny.
     
  17. Commishsleer

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    I'm wondering whether the Vengeance is also doubling as a troop/weapon/ship carrier. Its supposed to be an 'experimental' ship so maybe with this one secret opportunity that Marcus has he's going to do everything at once.

    Or maybe to pack the weaponry the Vengeance has the ship has to be physically large. Since it can be manned by just a few people the size isn't necessarily to house crew.
     
  18. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I think that wasn't so big. 3 stories tall but
    The main shuttlebay is certainly close, although from this picture is looks to be at least a story shorter than the Vengeance's hanger. And Vengeance's hanger was guy one of many!

    Personally I'm not so sure Sea Ops is more than a brain-fart by the writers of the TNG Tech Manual. Was it ever shown or even mentioned on-screen?
     
  19. BillJ

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    I'm pretty sure it was mentioned at least once during the TNG run.

    From Memory Alpha:

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Cetacean
     
  20. F. King Daniel

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    Huh. I wonder if they keep Humpbacks on board, just in case...