Wiped Episode Discoveries

[Turbo]

I figured that would be the case, I just wondered if there was some kind of legal loophole given the BBC didn't care enough about the material to keep it in the first place

It was nothing to do with not caring. It was the massive cost of storing something (not just Doctor Who) that there was no way of forseeing would ever have any future value. An episode of British TV in the 1960's was designed to be seen at most twice and then never again.

Yeah, I ws just wondring if some smart arse lawyer could make a case

Even if someone could possibly make a case here, the Broadcast Act 1956 states that all television broadcasts are under copyright for 50 years from the date of broadcast, so the only story that would "benefit" is Marco Polo, and not until the middle of next year.

 

[Lonemagpie]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24448063

OK, so how many, and which? Wake me up when they announce that.

 

[StCoop]

OK, so how many, and which?

It's looking like "how many" will depend on how many people buy the first few.

 

[Sindatur]

So, BBC has now officially announced the announcement

 

[Turbo]

Interestingly, The Web of Fear audiobook is no longer available from either iTunes US or Audible.com. Not sure if it's been gone awhile, as I bought it ages ago, but it is the only one missing. (They even finally put The Wheel in Space up there - took long enough!)

 

[Brendan Moody]

Even if someone could possibly make a case here, the Broadcast Act 1956 states that all television broadcasts are under copyright for 50 years from the date of broadcast, so the only story that would "benefit" is Marco Polo, and not until the middle of next year.

As StCoop said above, the copyright on the episodes (as opposed to the broadcasts-- they're different categories because the law was written when unrecorded live TV and radio were still factors) lasts for 70 years from the death of the last of several key participants in their making. For "Marco Polo," for example, that will be Waris Hussein, who's still living.

 

[N-121973]

I was going to speculate before the BBC finally announced the announcment what the excuse would be for any further postponements and I came to the conclusion it would be that a Dalek exterminated the Blue Peter dog before it could regurgitate the reels and reels of missing Dr Who episodes it had just eaten.
On a more serious note, do you think any of these recovered episodes will find their way onto DVD? If they do I bet there'll be one of those stickers on the cover which'll read 'Not seen for 40 years!" or "Believed lost for ever, until now!". Not to mention a DVD extra detailing the story of their discovery.

 

[diankra]

Kevin Davies is saying 19 on Facebook, but it may just be a joke.

 

[Mr Awe]

Ian Levine is back on Twitter, telling fandom that "THE FATE OF THE OTHER MISSING EPISODES IS IN YOUR HANDS." Apparently if we don't all buy the new episodes from iTunes on Friday, if we wait for a DVD or pirate them, we'll never get the rest, which some sinister person or entity is hoarding.

There's more than a bit of hyperbole in his statement but perhaps a grain of truth. It's possible they're testing the iTunes waters to see how well they do and if it's viable for future newly found episodes. The alternative would be to package them either together on their own DVDs in compilations or with other stories, maybe new special editions.

It could be a case of the BBC seeing which approach is more profitable. If we don't buy them on iTunes, I'm sure they'd be made available in other ways, but perhaps not as quickly.

Of course, that's assuming there are more lost episodes that were found, which I'm not assuming at this point. Right now I'm thinking there are 2, at most.

Mr Awe

 

[Turbo]

Two episodes or two serials?

 

[Mr Awe]

BBC News finally reporting it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24448063.

"A number" have been found. That's a bit vague, but to me that implies more than 2 episodes. But it's down to semantics. Can't wait to find out!

Mr Awe

 

[Mr Awe]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24448063

OK, so how many, and which? Wake me up when they announce that.

Yeah, an announcement about an announcement. Snooze. Although, I am very happy about any finds!

Mr Awe

 

[Shazam!]

"A number" have been found. That's a bit vague, but to me that implies more than 2 episodes. But it's down to semantics. Can't wait to find out!

I hoped that the rumoured '2' was stories and not episodes.

 

[Sindatur]

So, if it really is 19 episodes, and Enemy of the World and Web of Fear are indeed complete, that would leave either 7 (or 9, since we have 1 episode of each) episodes left. If this really is the way it falls, what's everyone's wishlist for the other 7 episodes, complete another serial(s) or scattered sampling of episodes? At this point, I'd prefer for the left over episodes not to be episodes that are already animated, 'cause I want as many stories as possible available

 

[Brendan Moody]

Apart from the 90-episode strand of the rumor, the most common claim was that the find was all of "Web" and "Enemy" plus all of "Marco Polo." That would be 17 missing episodes, or 19 total. Part of the "blackmail" claim going around now is that "Marco Polo" and "Web" 3, the first appearance of the Brigadier, are being held back until whatever demands are met.

 

[Atticus]

Even if there had been a trace of doubt remaining, the reporting of it by the Beeb itself removes it. The fact they have confirmed it is technically the most significant development since the People article. Happy days

 

[StCoop]

Wasn't one of the crazy rumours that the person with the episodes wanted Moffat fired, amongst other things?

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Wasn't one of the crazy rumours that the person with the episodes wanted Moffat fired, amongst other things?

It was.

 

[Atticus]

Wasn't one of the crazy rumours that the person with the episodes wanted Moffat fired, amongst other things?

I can't see any serious episode hunter - which is what, given the amount apparently found, is what it seems likely they are dealing with - asking for something so absurd.

 

[StCoop]

Wasn't one of the crazy rumours that the person with the episodes wanted Moffat fired, amongst other things?

It was.

If he's a traditionalist maybe he's the one we should be thanking for casting Capaldi instead of one of those children whose names were being tossed around?