STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

[Borgminister]

Since After Earth is a giant turd, and Hangover is already fading, I think Into Darkness can potentially have legs here for another two weeks until Supes comes out. 220 is not out of the question here, and the international take will offset the drop off nationally.

The real interesting question is what they're gonna do for the next one IMO. If they can combine both box office totals (09's domestic and 13's international), that would be another step in the right direction...

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

16.4 million's pretty good for the weekend.

 

[Jax]

That's pretty crap. ST09 made $35,066,138 it's third week.

Memorial week for ST09 was 3rd week, wish people would stop jumping to extremes everytime a $$$ is mentioned.

 

[LeadHead]

^ Thank you for saying that!

 

[indranee]

Going again tonight to a 2D 7:30pm show with some friends. Apparently, the same show last night at the same theater was sold out but the guy at the box office said it's pretty open tonight. It's a Sunday night. Monday is a working/school day.

So we'll see what it looks like tonight. This'll be my fourth time.

 

[Squiggy]

That's pretty crap. ST09 made $35,066,138 it's third week.

Memorial week for ST09 was 3rd week, wish people would stop jumping to extremes everytime a $$$ is mentioned.

Memorial Day was also in STID's 2rd week. If that number holds, it's still crap.

At this point (3rd weekend), ST09 had $184,526,281, STID is estimated at $181,156,000.

At the end of ST09's 18th Day, it was Memorial Day. $191,014,403, 10 million more than STID.

STID had a better open, ST09 had better legs.

 

[Borgminister]

Story's not over yet in terms of legs.

 

[USSPhilippi]

I saw the $5.50 bargain matinee yesterday at Carmike (4:05 showing). 2D, obviously. I was already at the mall, and it was getting close to start time, so I said why not. Would have had to wait another 3 hours for 3D - Carmike's down to showing it twice a day in that format.

I must say I liked it even better than my first viewing.

 

[Jax]

That's pretty crap. ST09 made $35,066,138 it's third week.

Memorial week for ST09 was 3rd week, wish people would stop jumping to extremes everytime a $$$ is mentioned.

Memorial Day was also in STID's 2rd week. If that number holds, it's still crap.

At this point (3rd weekend), ST09 had $184,526,281, STID is estimated at $181,156,000.

At the end of ST09's 18th Day, it was Memorial Day. $191,014,403, 10 million more than STID.

STID had a better open, ST09 had better legs.

Only in US Box Office and still breaking $200 million getting around $225ish by the end is nothing to scoff at. Oversea Box office is the strongest in the entire franchise's history and thats bloody brilliant.

 

[I am not Spock]

Could we possibly see 200 million from overseas? If so, that would be brilliant. I think it is doable. There's a bunch of countries it is not out in yet. And we're already ahead of ST09's total overseas take.

I do hope it gets to US 200 million soon. It is quite frustrating to see it limping there.

Paramount will no doubt be taking the much improved international take into account when considering a next film.

 

[throwback]

I am reading the Hollywood Reporter. According to that site, ST: ID is lagging $10 million behind ST '09 in the domestic market.

The film is doing better overseas than the last film. It had a phenomenal opening in China and showed strong in South Korea. The film is expected to do well in Brazil, France, Italy, Japan, and Spain.

http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3687&p=.htm

The film has made nearly $328 million worldwide.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=startrek12.htm

Can this film make $200 million or more in the overseas market? I don't know. I know that Europe is having an unemployment crisis, with three of the countries named above reporting an increased number of jobless. Some of these jobless belong to the coveted youth group that Paramount is targeting. Of the countries named above, Japan will be the last country to see the movie, with it opening on August 23. If the film does well in Japan, then the film will have started and ended strong.

 

[mswood]

Yes the film will easily pass 200 million overseas. We are nearly at 150 million right now. China will deliver at least another 25 itself, another 7 million from Korea. At a mojor box office tracking site every market is tracked and every single market is doing over what 2009, and most by oer a third, some by several multiples.

Just giving Into Darkness the performance of 2009 in the markets that have yet to open will push it past 200 million (including just China and South Korea manage to equal there first week with the rest of their run, and since they are doing better then expected they should and should easily).

Right now the Overseas is looking to go 220 to 240 million.

With US looking to hit 210 to 225.

No matter the total revenue generated should be 40 to 65 million more then what was generated by Trek 2009.

Of course the downside in this is that in the US attendance totals will be down over a full third. While normal 3D isn't consuming a large part of the ticket sales (under 29% which is low for a 3D/ normal screen ratio), and Imax remains very strong (when 2009 came out Trek was the most watch film on Imax, it did killer Imax business).

Overseas, even with 3d, and the few places that do show Imax (not a huge number), attendance is in most places up. Australia currently is one of the few countries that will absolutely see a lose in attendance. And several will jsut see very slight attendance increases (typically english speaking countries), but Russia, and so far the asian markets have shown huge increases. Consider that China and Russia are the two fastest growing markets and CHina will end up being the largest overseas market for Trek, Russia the third largest. It bodes extremely well for a future release.

Most films earn about 65-70 percent of their revenue overseas. Trek has been hurt by the fact that historically Trek has that reversed. Getting Asia to watch Trek, getting Russia to watch Trek is huge for Viacom. Getting growth and expanding the areas of the World that Trek can make money is simply put vastly more important for Viacom then the US performance.

 

[RAMA]

I was just hoping for $300 million worldwide by the end of Sunday at the beginning of the week, the fact that it hit $328.5 million already is amazing!!!

I saw it again today, for the first time one of the people I saw it with did not rave about it, they said it was just ok. Oh well.

RAMA

 

[Belz...]

Didn't read the whole thread but, has anybody else noticed that Box Office Mojo is basically giving ST09 an extra day of revenue in their comparison with ID ? ID's first day was with a tenth of its full release theatres and it only made 2 million that day, and yet they count it when comparing the two, even in their article from today. That's kinda unfair for the new movie.

 

[RAMA]

Didn't read the whole thread but, has anybody else noticed that Box Office Mojo is basically giving ST09 an extra day of revenue in their comparison with ID ? ID's first day was with a tenth of its full release theatres and it only made 2 million that day, and yet they count it when comparing the two, even in their article from today. That's kinda unfair for the new movie.

Yes I did point that out. I also pointed out the lower theater count over ST09 too. ALso STID made it's $16.4 million this weekend with more than 500 fewer theaters than last week.

RAMA

 

[KittyDuran]

I'm probably going to go a fourth time.

What about merchandising? Does that play into it at all? I've seen the movie three times, but I also bought the Into Darkness soundtrack album, and the novelisation

Wish there were more... National Amusements had a special cup you could purchase but that was about it... Haven't been to the Regal cinemas yet to see what they have to offer. Nothing from AMC...I still had the special gift card (Spock) from ST09 that I used this past week. The ticket taker and concessions employees thought it was a great idea.

OK. went to a Regal cinema today (2:45pm) and it was 3/4 full. No tie-in unfortunately.

 

[Lynn Minmay]

Will Smith's new movie BOMBED.

http://boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=basic&id=scififlops2012.htm

 

[I am not Spock]

Anyone think 500 mil worldwide is possible? I think it is doable. It's been doing great in China so far. I don't think it will get to 300 million in the US at this point, though. That's the thing. 200 mil overseas is very likely.

Somewhere in the 450 mil range is where this will probably end up. I hope I'm wrong, though. Half a billion would be amazing (for a Trek film)

 

[Therin of Andor]

I know that Europe is having an unemployment crisis, with three of the countries named above reporting an increased number of jobless.

I thought movie-going was something that tended to survive high unemployment rates? People still need entertainment and it's still a relatively cheap night out if you use discount vouchers and smuggle in your own food.

 

[LOKAI of CHERON]

Anyone think 500 mil worldwide is possible? I think it is doable. It's been doing great in China so far. I don't think it will get to 300 million in the US at this point, though. That's the thing. 200 mil overseas is very likely.

Somewhere in the 450 mil range is where this will probably end up. I hope I'm wrong, though. Half a billion would be amazing (for a Trek film)

Sadly, I'd say $500m is only an outside possibility at this stage. It really pains me to say this, but I think we should maybe start thinking about figures in the $420-430m range for this film now.

I just wish Trek could make that "larger" mainstream breakthrough. The very, very average Iron Man 3 sails past a billion on the crest of its good but overrated team-up movie sibling. While STID, which (in my admittedly probably somewhat biased opinion) is easily the superior movie, has to claw its way over the $400m mark.