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Why is there a Daystrom building already?

dahj

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Did he die already because Nero?

Does this mean Kirk is going to have one less computer to talk into suicide?
 
Just a nod to something from TOS. In-universe, maybe Daystrom's father or grandfather was something of a big shot in Starfleet at some point?
 
Remember, the Daystrom we saw in "The Ultimate Computer" was a former wunderkind who was trying desperately to out-genius the brilliant, ground-breaking accomplishments of his glory days. So even if "The Ultimate Computer" never happens in this timeline, the young Daystrom could have already made his mark on science.
 
It's a safe bet that the the Daystrom institute was likely a well-established entity, well prior to the whole M-5 incident in TOS. Were it not, I doubt that Starfleet would have permitted them to experiment with controlling one of their more powerful ships. Certainly, Daystrom himself had a well established reputation by that time, having long before designed the computers that Starfleet was already using.

The timeframe of STID is but a few years before the M-5 incident in the "prime" universe, so it only makes sense that Daystrom and his organization were already a thriving concern in the time of STID.

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That's all true, but you generally don't name buildings after living 30 year olds, no matter how brilliant they are.
They do if they happen to be the living 30 year olds, naming their building and their business after themselves. Living people name their companies, products, and buildings after themselves all the time.
Need examples? Check any Yellow Pages.

Off the top of my head: Donald Trump, (who is unfortunately still living), was in his early 20s when he started The Trump Organization, and in his early 30s when he built the first of many Trump Tower buildings.
 
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It's not weird that he has a building named after him. For all we know, he built the thing. What's weird to me is that they use his building as Starfleet HQ; you'd think that would be its own building.
 
Remember, the Daystrom we saw in "The Ultimate Computer" was a former wunderkind who was trying desperately to out-genius the brilliant, ground-breaking accomplishments of his glory days. So even if "The Ultimate Computer" never happens in this timeline, the young Daystrom could have already made his mark on science.

Yep. Today teenagers are revolutionizing cancer screenings and reducing mobile phone charge times from 3-4 hours to 20 seconds. Richard Daystom could easily have buildings named for him in 2258.
 
They do if they happen to be the living 30 year olds, naming their building and their business after themselves.

He wasn't Donald Trump though.
In the original timeline by this point he was in seclusion resenting other people's progress and his own lack of achievements after the initial success.

Living people name their companies, products, and buildings after themselves all the time.

This was a Starfleet building.
 
the young Daystrom could have already made his mark on science.

That's all true, but you generally don't name buildings after living 30 year olds, no matter how brilliant they are.

Maybe he founded the Institute himself? Like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Or Stark Industries?

We were never told that it was named after him. That's just an assumption.

And who says he was living in seclusion in this universe? The original timeline doesn't matter anymore.
 
Maybe he founded the Institute himself? Like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Or Stark Industries?

This wasn't named the Daystrom Institute though, just Daystrom building.

But even if that were the case, why would Starfleet be having a top level secret meeting in his building then?
 
So Marcus, Pike, Kirk et al. were meeting at a scientific institute, not a Starfleet Command building?
 
This was a Starfleet building.
Ya sure about that? We know they have an emergency meeting room there, but how do we know they actually own the whole building? You know for sure that Starfleet can't lease secure office space in existing structures?
 
What money?

Thought we eliminated that in the future :vulcan:

That's the 24th century. In TOS, there were frequent references to money -- people paying for goods in credits, Kirk telling people they'd earned their pay for the week, Spock talking about how much Starfleet had invested in his training, etc. Not to mention that people like Harry Mudd and Cyrano Jones were blatantly capitalistic. Sure, Kirk said in TVH that they didn't have money in the 23rd century, but there's overwhelming evidence to the contrary. In context, he probably just meant they don't carry paper money or coins, but instead rely on a computer-based credit system (which, really, is the direction we're increasingly going today).
 
There was a Daystrom reference in the movie? I totally missed it.

...you generally don't name buildings after living 30 year olds, no matter how brilliant they are.
Or give 25 year-old cadets on probation command of a starship. :p

That whole thing made me laugh. We're taking away your ship...and sending you back to the Academy!

Kirk really missed some of the in-between steps. :lol:
 
That's the 24th century. In TOS, there were frequent references to money

That is true, though I think that

Kirk said in TVH that they didn't have money in the 23rd century

was meant to retcon that.

Regardless of whether money exists or not, the accumulation of personal wealth(and naming buildings after yourself) as a driving force was supposed to be more or less eliminated even by Archers time.

And Daystrom certainly never looked like a dude that was in it for the money.
 
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