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7X11 The Crimson Horror(Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS

Grsde "The Crimson Horror"

  • Geronimo!

    Votes: 52 43.7%
  • Good

    Votes: 40 33.6%
  • Average

    Votes: 16 13.4%
  • Bad

    Votes: 8 6.7%
  • …You just cannot see it

    Votes: 3 2.5%

  • Total voters
    119
  • Poll closed .
And come to think of it, I've been missing the "Companion lusting for the Doctor" approach ever since RTD left.

Actually, no I'm not.

Who was it who created Amy Pond again? The character who on the night before her wedding basically spreads her legs and asks the Doctor to fuck her?

I know who it wasn't...
 
I really liked this one. I liked that it started with Jenny and Vastra; that was a nice twist. I liked the little touches of humor (Tom-Tom!) and of course, Dame Diane Rigg is always awesome. The ending back in the present was a bit off, but otherwise I found it really entertaining. I'd give it a "Good."
 
I miss it when every episode was set in modern day London. Can't think why anybody would ever leave such a fascinating place.
 
I miss it when every episode was set in modern day London.

Series 1 = Three episodes. (Plus one partial.)
Series 2 = Five Episodes. (One of which was in the near future.)
Series 3 = Five Episodes. (One of which was an a very different eventually erased timeline.)
Series 4 = Five Episodes. (One of which is largly set off the planet.)

Do you never get tired of lying?
 
He was being facetious. We know not every episode was set in modern day London, but it sure felt like that. After all the episodes in classic Who where they went to far out and strange alien worlds. All of a sudden with the new series they're stuck mostly in and around London and Earth. It really narrowed the scope of the series.

It seems that only finally is the Doctor finally branching out again.
 
Yeah, 1/3 set in modern London is still quite a bit.

And, really, modern anything UK. I suspect that list doesn't count modern Cardiff.
 
And come to think of it, I've been missing the "Companion lusting for the Doctor" approach ever since RTD left.

Actually, no I'm not.

Who was it who created Amy Pond again? The character who on the night before her wedding basically spreads her legs and asks the Doctor to fuck her?

I know who it wasn't...
And your problem is? It's credible for a normal person with wedding nerves who wants a last fling even without the added complication of this guy being the guy she's been obsessed with since childhood who's suddenly reapeared just as she was about to settle for 'nice but dull' (asRory then seemed...)
And then she got over it... like she would in real life the next morning with a hangover and regrets...
 
And come to think of it, I've been missing the "Companion lusting for the Doctor" approach ever since RTD left.

Actually, no I'm not.

Who was it who created Amy Pond again? The character who on the night before her wedding basically spreads her legs and asks the Doctor to fuck her?

I know who it wasn't...
And your problem is? It's credible for a normal person with wedding nerves who wants a last fling even without the added complication of this guy being the guy she's been obsessed with since childhood who's suddenly reapeared just as she was about to settle for 'nice but dull' (asRory then seemed...)
And then she got over it... like she would in real life the next morning with a hangover and regrets...

Exceptionally well put. Amy was realer in that moment than Rose or Martha ever were.

To add, she'd also just nearly died which likely exacerbated her feelings even more.
 
Exceptionally well put. Amy was realer in that moment than Rose or Martha ever were.

Amy Pond had a few bad appearances with The Beast Below, Victory of the Daleks, the Silurian 2-parter and a dodgy baby plotline but otherwise she was really terrific and episodes centred on her like Amy's Choice or The Girl Who Waited are the finest New Who has offered. Would take her over any of the previous companions and just hope her exit isn't ruined with a pointless return.

Still early days for Clara but I have high hopes. JLC is excellent, just wish she had a centric this series like Donna did with Turn Left or Amy did with Amy's Choice. Clara made a very strong impression when she was in the foreground in episodes like Cold War and Hide.
 
Who was it who created Amy Pond again? The character who on the night before her wedding basically spreads her legs and asks the Doctor to fuck her?

I know who it wasn't...
And your problem is? It's credible for a normal person with wedding nerves who wants a last fling even without the added complication of this guy being the guy she's been obsessed with since childhood who's suddenly reapeared just as she was about to settle for 'nice but dull' (asRory then seemed...)
And then she got over it... like she would in real life the next morning with a hangover and regrets...

Exceptionally well put. Amy was realer in that moment than Rose or Martha ever were.

To add, she'd also just nearly died which likely exacerbated her feelings even more.
She had to wander through a forest of Weeping Angels with her eyes closed. The Doctor's lucky she wanted to wait till she got him alone.
 
Where would the budget come from to make a Vastra and Jenny adventures show? Where is the actual demand outside of a few hardcore fans?

I can't think of any good reasons for a Vastra/Jenny/Strax series. That's not to say there aren't reasons -- the characters are generally fun, there's room in the television marketplace for more Doctor Who-esque product -- but they're not reasons that would induce the BBC to greenlight a series.

The budget, I think, is the easiest objection handled. I could see BBC America wanting to buy into the program as a coproducer (it fits their "Supernatural Saturday" niche, to say nothing of its Whovian origins). And if filmed on Ripper Street's backlot in Dublin, the sets and props would be there to be reused.

But that brings us back to the question -- who is this for? Which audience would the series be for? The Torchwood audience? The Sarah Jane audience? That's the question that would need to be answered first.

A Madame Vastra spin-off strikes me as an idea that's better suited for the licensees -- comics, novels, audios -- since they're already targetting a niche audience.
A one-off series/miniseries could work pretty well as (part of?) a break year. Maybe even put it in the hands of someone other than Moffat as a 'test run' for one of the potential showrunners.
 
A one-off series/miniseries could work pretty well as (part of?) a break year. Maybe even put it in the hands of someone other than Moffat as a 'test run' for one of the potential showrunners.

That's an idea with potential. :)

Imagine a "Worlds of Doctor Who" umbrella title for occasional one-off films. You could have Madame Vastra one month. The River Song/Jack Harkness thing that Alex Kingston and John Barrowman both want to do another month. Maybe a Rani and Clyde movie, to catch up on them since SJA ended.

It would be a hard sell to the BBC bosses, though. Money would be hard to come by, probably harder than it was for RTD's specials year (and that, at least, had the advantage of being actual Doctor Who). Foreign broadcast partners might not be interested in picking up these specials.

It is an idea with potential, though. But it has, I think, a steeper hill to climb than a series devoted solely to Madame Vastra would.
 
The BBC got burned on their last experience of a season of pilots (which is what that effectively was). They came out of it OK, with Being Human, but only after a near disastrous commitment to a season of Phoo Power (or whatever it was called).
 
They should give Team Vastra the "Sherlock" treatment and do a couple of TV movies every couple of years.
 
Marvelous. Much better than last week.

I want Ada to join the Paternoster Gang. And I want them to get a spin-off written by Mark Gatiss.
 
I remember vividly two scenes from this episode:
1. Watching the old lady falling from a great height and landing on her back - "Ouch."
2. Watching Ada whacking Mr. Sweet with her cane.
 
Was anyone else expecting Mister Sweet to be the Great Intelligence?
Yeah, I did, and yet, I thought it was so predictable that I was actually disappointed that wasn't. Weird, I know. :lol:

Imagine a "Worlds of Doctor Who" umbrella title for occasional one-off films. You could have Madame Vastra one month. The River Song/Jack Harkness thing that Alex Kingston and John Barrowman both want to do another month. Maybe a Rani and Clyde movie, to catch up on them since SJA ended.
I really like that idea (and the three story ideas) but I agree that it would be very hard sell for BBC especially after how the last round of specials were received.

But a guy can dream, right?
 
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