Braga: Crossover That Never Happened

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Enterprise' started by ChristopherPike, Sep 13, 2012.

  1. JarodRussell

    JarodRussell Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Scary alien reptile monster in very suspenseful, breathtaking scenes? I'm all for it.
     
  2. Enterprise is Great

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    There's never enough dinosaurs.
     
  3. Mach5

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    That's what I hoped for when Terra Nova first started airing...

    But Brannon had other plans... Like amnesia-inducing viruses and shit. :rolleyes:
     
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    Amnesia, I've had enough of that in my sci fi too.

    I wish they would just forget about it.
     
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    Although it very definitely should have been resolved on-screen, Future Guy's identity and backstory is revealed in the novel Watching the Clock...

    He was a Romulan/Suliban/Tandaran hybrid named Jamaran Harnoth. The Suliban aren't the only species he'd manipulated, he also created Romulan Augments in the late 24th century, may have been involved in Earth's Augment program in the 1970's and in an alternate timeline was the cause of the Second Romulan War (as seen in the aborted animated series, Star Trek: Final Frontier http://zeroroomproductions.com)
     
  6. JarodRussell

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    Wow, that is... lame.
     
  7. teacake

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    I spent several minutes debating whether to look at KingDaniel's spoiler tag.

    I looked.

    That is all.
     
  8. NrobbieC

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    Some things are best left never happening.
     
  9. Mach5

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    Oh... SNAP! :lol:
     
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    I love this idea. In the hands of a talented writer this could have been a truly great episode. The best part of course is that Shatner would be actually be playing Kirk rather than a mirror universe counterpart or some lame look-a-like.
     
  11. F. King Daniel

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    In fairness, what could they really have done? There was no way for FG to be a known Trek character and have a shocking "It's me, Austin! It was me all along Austin! Bwa-ha-ha-haaa!" reveal. Only to logically extrapolate a backstory from what we knew.
     
  12. JarodRussell

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    At the very least, they could turn that into a Phase II episode.
     
  13. ChristopherPike

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    This sort of reminds me of a recent plot on Doctor Who. Series begins with the Doctor's apparent death and half way through the series, after one potential answer that turned out to be a red herring, the actual device is introduced that's obviously going to be used to fake what we've been shown. In a sense it's a total cop out, being a solution which clearly could never have been deduced from the evidence presented in the opening episodes.

    Simply the same kind of narrative trickery to explain something the series creators had absolutely no idea how to resolve when they first set fingers to keyboard.

    In a war with factions across time, the future is presumably where the high ground is occupied. That's where one side have presumably invented all the tech which allows the existing timeline to be monitored and also stand in a chamber, isolated from the changes. A character would be introduced as a threat native to the 22nd, be played around with for several episodes - only to be revealed as allied with a future race and relocated to the 29th... where his actions retroactively prove to have been the Suliban's shadowy benefactor. Before returning again, to instigate the Romulan War (after Season 4's arc left the technology behind the Drone project in doubt) and then be killed off in the final season or series finale.

    Alternatively, FG as a far future decendant who wouldn't even exist had it not been for the actions of somebody in 22nd. Or his own, in a closed off paradox.
     
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    Well... the best thing I could say about Kirk crossover is... at least it isn't alien Nazis.
     
  15. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Shat should have just played Chef as a normal character with no time travel or posing as Kirk or any of that crap.
     
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    Exactly what I wandered into this thread to say! I guess I can go do something else now.

    ...though to add to that idea slightly, he should've been a Kirk ancestor as well. Chef Kirk. Humble origins and all that.
     
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    I was originally hoping for Chef to be someone like Emeril Lagasse. Bam, indeed.
     
  18. teacake

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    Hasn't Shatner resisted playing anyone but Kirk in Trek?
     
  19. grabthars hammer

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    Whew! Looks like a bullet was dodged there; Braga and Shatner teaming-up creatively? Probably would've made TATV look like Citizen Kane.
     
  20. teacake

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    If you had TATV as it is only with Shat playing Chef it would be like.. eating jelly with broccoli. Just too many elements crammed disjointedly into 45 minutes. Also it might make me resent Shatner which would never do.