Generations deleted scenes

[Captaindemotion]

Well, I was about to post a thread talking about the now-deleted scene I saw in the original theatrical run of TUC, the love scene between Sulu and Christian Slater, but I'm now afraid y'all won't believe me.

I'm pretty certain that scene is in the Blu-ray.

I have a bridge in London for sale if you're interested. PM me.

 

[Grant]

"Star Trek: Insert Film Here"...... was only shown in a few theaters before being pulled, all prints were destroyed and it never went to video. You can't even find proof it ever existed and none of the participents will admit to being in it. Biggest cover-up in Trek history.

Terrible title for a movie in any case. Takei said, "Insert film where?"

 

[Oso Blanco]

Well, there is a workprint version of Generations that's being traded amongst those who have other precious stuff to trade ... it claims to have additional scenes as well as the alternate ending.

 

[Grant]

I have no problen believing there is a 'workprink' of Generations that got out---just not into a theater in Nov 1994 with 'naughty' Data dialogue and Geordi taking a shower.


Hey, maybe that's why they cut it. Lursa's dialogue says bath but they filmed Burton in a shower, they had to cut it for continuity reasons. Plus Burton had second thoughts about the nude scene and asked them to cut it.

 

[StewMc]

Well, there is a workprint version of Generations that's being traded amongst those who have other precious stuff to trade ... it claims to have additional scenes as well as the alternate ending.

It's probably the full length version of the source that the poor quality deleted scenes came from that were put online by Section31.com back in the day.

For what it's worth the "sexual noises" extended Data scene is real in terms that it does exist as a deleted scene (and is probably online somewhere still), although there isn't any reference to Tasha, I suspect that's just the random thoughts of the OPs "buddy". It's basically an extra 30 seconds of Spiner panting and falling about.

 

[Grant]

Well, there is a workprint version of Generations that's being traded amongst those who have other precious stuff to trade ... it claims to have additional scenes as well as the alternate ending.

It's probably the full length version of the source that the poor quality deleted scenes came from that were put online by Section31.com back in the day.

For what it's worth the "sexual noises" extended Data scene is real in terms that it does exist as a deleted scene (and is probably online somewhere still), although there isn't any reference to Tasha, I suspect that's just the random thoughts of the OPs "buddy".

Super glad that didn't make the theatrical cut! Spiner's riffs sometimes are good--that one sounds like a terrible ad-lib out-take. Oh yeah---- it is.


The favorite deleted scene that I saw was the Sulu meets his great-grandfather scene from Trek 4. The kid was okay but Takei really gave a great performance in that scene!

 

[StewMc]

Here's the scenes for anyone who didn't have the privilege of seeing them at the cinema/theatre:

Spiner goes over the top:
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nUIOebaOL0[/yt]

The Duras sisters watch La Forge take a bath. Or perhaps it is a shower and Geordi is behind the blue shower curtain!
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CrIIqynD94[/yt]

The bath scene was actually a good cut as otherwise the same information is repeated twice within a matter of minutes (he goes for a bath, and the joke about being an engineer that doesn't go to engineering). Note that the script doesn't actually mention a bath, only the line from B'etor stating that he "bathed", and I suppose you could bathe in a shower. What they were supposed to be seeing on the screen however was Geordi wiping the steam away from a mirror.

 

[Grant]

Thanks for posting those. Wow, that Data scene was horrible---really glad they cut it.

And what he said about Tasha--(Sulu voice) "Oh my!"

Yep, cheap Federation blue shower curtains, probably get moldy real fast.
Klingons hate showers or baths! Worf says in an early ep of TNG "(swimming) is too much like bathing."

That's a little more 'nearly racist' stuff from early TNG.

 

[Amaris]

You know what's kind of wierd is that the novelization of TWOK contains a scene (never shot) of David giving mouth-to-mouth to Sulu after a phaser explosion--no lie!

Did those two gentlemen object to the scene?

Go on... er... not that I'm interested or anything.

 

[Grant]

You know what's kind of wierd is that the novelization of TWOK contains a scene (never shot) of David giving mouth-to-mouth to Sulu after a phaser explosion--no lie!

Did those two gentlemen object to the scene?

Go on... er... not that I'm interested or anything.

Me neither!

Actually the script (scene 199-206) has a scene where an explosion throws Sulu from his chair and David "helps him"---that was not filmed.

But, working from the script the novelization expands that to him giving Sulu CPR.

 

[Rarewolf]

I have no problen believing there is a 'workprink' of Generations that got out---

I have a copy of it, somewhere, but I'm not watched it since long before the special edition DVD came out. I assumed most of the extra footage was in the deleted scenes package on there.

 

[Grant]

I have no problen believing there is a 'workprink' of Generations that got out---

I have a copy of it, somewhere, but I'm not watched it since long before the special edition DVD came out. I assumed most of the extra footage was in the deleted scenes package on there.

Actually no, only a few deleted scenes made the DVD/Blu-ray. I saw the rest on crappy youtube type videos that DID look like I was watching it through a guys afro.

I have to admit Generations is the only Trek movie that I DON'T give a damn about the deleted scenes. I only wanted to see the 'post-Kirk death' Chekov/Scott scene.

 

[Amaris]

You know what's kind of wierd is that the novelization of TWOK contains a scene (never shot) of David giving mouth-to-mouth to Sulu after a phaser explosion--no lie!

Did those two gentlemen object to the scene?

Go on... er... not that I'm interested or anything.

Me neither!

Actually the script (scene 199-206) has a scene where an explosion throws Sulu from his chair and David "helps him"---that was not filmed.

But, working from the script the novelization expands that to him giving Sulu CPR.

Really? That's pretty cool! I would have liked to have seen that.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

^ You know you could have said that without coming across as a jerk.

I'd rather be a jerk than a nut or a liar.

The opening post is the same as me saying aliens abducted me last night--you can't 'prove' I'm lying, but chances ARE I'm a nut or liar.

To say the scenes he speaks of in the opening post were in a theatrical cut of Generations and using 'his friend' as 'proof' are just beyond lame.

Lursa mentions Geordi 'taking a bath' and now that turns into a cut where he 'remembers' Geordi taking a shower and 'commenting' on it to his friend during the movie--that's just bizarre.
His friend commenting on Data's sexual outburst during the scene where Data's chip goes haywire? That not just false it's kind of sick.

We have all misremembered a line or a brief scene that we may have read or heard of from a novel or whatever, but declaring with certainty and metioning all the particulars of an event that clearly never happened seem very strange.

He either has serious problems or is just looking for attention.

And forgive me if I'm wrong but didn't the same poster ALSO claim to have seen theatrically another version of another Trek movie with scenes that were NOT in the theatrical cut. Really?

So, Paramount is showing alternate versions of the Trek movies where ever this guy goes--just for him?

Yeah, i'm being a jerk. Glad I'm a jerk and not crazy.

And why do people pander and try to come up with reasons why this person might have thought he saw this stuff. He DIDN'T and it's not just simple misremembering.

Grant, I'd strongly advise you not to be so personal in the future. You're bordering on something that would require an official warning. So cool it. R. Star didn't deserve that. What I'm reading is that he did misremember so strongly that he mixed the novelization with his memory of the movie. There are times I can picture scenes from the novel "Q-in-Law" as vividly as if it were an episode in season 3.

 

[los2188]

First, they don't usually change films when going to home video, so it's unlikely they removed scenes from the theatrical cut before it went to video. Second, I saw the same film in theaters and I don't recall the scenes you are discussing. It's more likely you're misremembering or that you somehow saw a preview screening of the film before its finished form. Have you tried looking at the screenplays for the film to see if any of what you're remembering was in it?

No. I am 100% of those scenes in that movie specifically because of the comments that were made while watching it. The Geordi shower scene was one of those, "oh so that's what they do in the 24th century" type moments, seeing that they shower like "normal." I remember seeing his feet to right above his calves. I can't speak to some of the other scenes, but those that I listed WERE in the theatrical version that I saw so many years ago. I'd bet my own life on it.

 

[los2188]

None of those scenes were ever in any theatrical cut of Generations. Geordi shower scene? Are you serious?
Data referencing his sexual encounter with Tasha during his overload?

If you think you saw those scenes in a cut of the movie --quit taking drugs.

Honestly, it justs sounds like you are making stuff up.

They show a shorter version of the Georgdi torture scene in the movie, but never aired the full-length version in the theater.

First of all, I never said that Data referenced his sexual encounter with Tasha. If you read what I typed, you'll see that my friend and I spoke about about his burst of sexual emotion being from when he was with Tasha Yar. Do you understand that now? Do I need to repeat what I typed? Secondly...I honestly don't give a damn if you think I'm making this up or not. I take offense to the drug reference as well. So take your comments...and...well...figure out the rest if you can. Do you need me to tell you?

 

[los2188]

I'll correct myself--he earlier started a thread where he claimed to 'have seen a 'bootlegged' copy of Nemesis' that included all the deleted scenes including parts that were not in the extensive deleted scenes section on the Blu-ray. The scenes were cut into the movie and not separate. So he somehow got hold of a 'bootlegged' rough cut of Nemesis that none of us have ever seen or heard of.

I'm very certain that if such a thing existed it wouldn't be widely available on the black market at cons and such. That would never happen. Only a single copy floating around for him to see.


I believe he said that the FX for the deleted scenes were in finished form.

Really, they spent tons of money to finalize FX for scenes that didn't make the general cut, that us mere mortals didn't see?

I can't wait to hear what other versions of the Trek movies he has seen that no one else has.

And I'll re-correct myself---he DOES claim that the alternate version of Nemesis was in the theaters! The copy he saw was filmed in the theater and he could see a guy in the audiences' afro with a pick sticking out of it!

So a version of Nemesis that included EVERY deleted scene from the Blu-ray and even MORE WAS shown theatrically and he recently saw it. So he can't be mis-remembering that can he.

Yep, the 2 hour 40 minute version of Nemesis WAS shown theatrically and he recently saw it in bootleg form and I/we can't 'prove' he's a fibber.

I guess I have sown the wind.......

no comment.

 

[los2188]

You know what...I apologize. I shouldn't let what some other person thinks bother me, nor should I have used such strong language. That's really not in my nature to do. You can believe what I am saying, or not, but those specific scenes brought out a pretty memorable reaction from me when I saw them and that's why I remember it so clearly. As I said before, the other scenes I can't speak of seeing at all. As far as the bootleg Nemesis that I saw, it is what it is and that's just all there is to it. When I saw the movie in theaters, I did not see some of those same scenes as in this bootleg, but honestly, I don't care who believes me or not. I come here for the discussion and that's all.

 

[Maurice]

^^^You do realize that for a short time after posting you can edit and delete your posts. It might be better to delete/amend the comments you are apologizing for than leave them standing.

 

[Tiberius]

First, they don't usually change films when going to home video, so it's unlikely they removed scenes from the theatrical cut before it went to video. Second, I saw the same film in theaters and I don't recall the scenes you are discussing. It's more likely you're misremembering or that you somehow saw a preview screening of the film before its finished form. Have you tried looking at the screenplays for the film to see if any of what you're remembering was in it?

I have a clear memory of watching Back to the Future part 3 in the cinemas, and there was a bit of dialogue cut from the scene where Marty's going back in time at the drive in. Doc gives him a gun and says that if Marty can't save him, get the son a bitch who kills him. I remember it clearly because I was only about six or seven at the time and I was surprised they sad a naughty word.