THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release
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Covering a number of issues:
Faramir
right around when the films came out, I had a "Philosophy of Tolkien" class where Faramir's character came up during class. My prof and I disagreed on it. He said that Faramir was not to be commended for resisting the Ring because he was never tempted by it. I said that saying Faramir was not "good" for an innate ability to resist the Ring was analogous to not applauding a child for being a musical prodigy.
Three films:
There are 13 dwarves! They have got to be differentiated as characters for the audience to care about them possibly dying. That's going to take some screen time. Bilbo's fears have to be shown (not stated) for the story to work, his going from his comfortable little life to dangerous adventures--how comfortable and why he would go.
I can see that some time would be taken in the family trees. Not necessarily a lot of time, but something showing how hobbits became, well, complacent. Which would go towards why Bilbo's actions were SO unusual for a hobbit. Heck, there could be a bit of Smeagol's people having to leave where they were due to men "invading," leading through the family trees and finally to Bilbo.
Faramir
right around when the films came out, I had a "Philosophy of Tolkien" class where Faramir's character came up during class. My prof and I disagreed on it. He said that Faramir was not to be commended for resisting the Ring because he was never tempted by it. I said that saying Faramir was not "good" for an innate ability to resist the Ring was analogous to not applauding a child for being a musical prodigy.
Three films:
There are 13 dwarves! They have got to be differentiated as characters for the audience to care about them possibly dying. That's going to take some screen time. Bilbo's fears have to be shown (not stated) for the story to work, his going from his comfortable little life to dangerous adventures--how comfortable and why he would go.
I can see that some time would be taken in the family trees. Not necessarily a lot of time, but something showing how hobbits became, well, complacent. Which would go towards why Bilbo's actions were SO unusual for a hobbit. Heck, there could be a bit of Smeagol's people having to leave where they were due to men "invading," leading through the family trees and finally to Bilbo.
Wait! What?
I remember when it was announced that Judge would be in The Dark Knight Rises and Stargate fans got all worked and started to guess how big his role would be and what a great role it would be, he then did a series of interviews talking about the film - then the it came out and it turned out that he was 'Henchman 47" and his appearance consisted of silently having Batman kick his head in.
The Hobbit is light on exposition but a lot happens in it (purposely ambiguous):
-Bilbo goodmornings Gandalf
-Meeting of the dwarves
-Party
-Without a hankie
-Bert, Tom and Bill
-Elf-made
-Rivendell
-In the pass
-Down to G-Town
-Escape and seperation
-Riddles and a loss of buttons
-Up a tree
-On top of the world
-The Beorn Hospitality
-Fifteen becomes fourteen
-On the path
-Off the path
-Naming of Sting
-Taken as 'guests'
-Barrels
-Laketown
-Up the river
-Dale
-Sunset on Durin's Day
-Seeing S
-Meeting S
-Enraged S
-S and Laketown
-S aftermath
-Arkenstone found
-Thorin sends for aide
-Thorin digs in
-First two of the Five arrive
-Negotiations
-Dain arrives
-Gandalf arrives
-BotFA
-Aftermath
-Homeward
-Interrupted auction
-Meeting of the dwarves
-Party
-Without a hankie
-Bert, Tom and Bill
-Elf-made
-Rivendell
-In the pass
-Down to G-Town
-Escape and seperation
-Riddles and a loss of buttons
-Up a tree
-On top of the world
-The Beorn Hospitality
-Fifteen becomes fourteen
-On the path
-Off the path
-Naming of Sting
-Taken as 'guests'
-Barrels
-Laketown
-Up the river
-Dale
-Sunset on Durin's Day
-Seeing S
-Meeting S
-Enraged S
-S and Laketown
-S aftermath
-Arkenstone found
-Thorin sends for aide
-Thorin digs in
-First two of the Five arrive
-Negotiations
-Dain arrives
-Gandalf arrives
-BotFA
-Aftermath
-Homeward
-Interrupted auction
Been a while since you read it?Possibly dying... LOL.
I always forget these films are aimed at non-readers.
Come on! He's playing "Mercenary Security #4", which is a completely different role.
I loved it, the whole cinema went "Teal'c!", "Indeed!!!" 
You mean the class, or the fat that Faramir's character was discussed?
Assuming "the class," I needed a general ed class and figured this was good. The final was optional, consisting of the prof reading questions from a trivia book and the FOUR students present (it was raining, so most stayed home) tried to answer.
I was able to answer weird ones, amazing the prof.
- Who carved Durin's Doors?
- What was the name of Theoden's horse? Hell, I even knew the horse's mother/s (or maybe it's father's) name.
Same prof taught "Literature of the Old Testament" (which I took) and "Literature of the New Testament" as English courses. Fair amount of writing but no hard research. I think he was agnostic. Really. He wanted people to THINK about the words as literature, not as religious doctrine. Stumped a few religious students in class as they couldn't wrap their minds around that. I found that amusing.
Oops! My first read through picked up an implication from you that no one dies...and that was what I responded too. My bad.
TORN has published our first look at Thranduil as played by Lee Pace.
Additionally, there's a low res shot of The Council of White, sans Radagast the Brown, unfortunately, but it's cool to see Christopher Lee back in action!
Additionally, there's a low res shot of The Council of White, sans Radagast the Brown, unfortunately, but it's cool to see Christopher Lee back in action!
Well here's the break down
-- "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey,' Dec. 14, 2012.
-- "The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug." Dec. 13, 2013.
-- "The Hobbit: There and Back Again," July 18, 2014.
-- "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey,' Dec. 14, 2012.
-- "The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug." Dec. 13, 2013.
-- "The Hobbit: There and Back Again," July 18, 2014.
When they're done, I hope they write a book adaptation of the Hobbit in three books.
And maybe then, adapt that into nine movies.
And maybe then, adapt that into nine movies.
Then they can publish a 9-book novelization, which will launch Jackson's 27-move version!
Then will come his more modest four-film quadrilogy of "The Cat In The Hat."
I still don't get people making fun of this. Look at the other current critically loved literary fantasy adaption, each book is broken own into ten hours (and they still leave a ton out of those books).
Some of the very best adaptions have been in long form, so I love the fact that we can see that for the Hobbit (though I do wish LOTR) could have been the material to be broken into long form. But that type of gamble was never, ever going to be possible (I mean just getting three long films approved was next to impossible, and then to get so much additional material released on top of that, was awesome).
Some of the very best adaptions have been in long form, so I love the fact that we can see that for the Hobbit (though I do wish LOTR) could have been the material to be broken into long form. But that type of gamble was never, ever going to be possible (I mean just getting three long films approved was next to impossible, and then to get so much additional material released on top of that, was awesome).
I wonder where they will cut off each movie now. At what point do they meet Smaug? At what point will he die? The Battle of the Five Armies is presumably the bulk of movie 3.
Yeah, that's my concern. The previous split at least made sense to me, so I'm curious about the new split.
On the other hand, it might be better to not be spoiled.
On the other hand, it might be better to not be spoiled.
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