Falling Skies - Season 2- discussion/Spoilers
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I think it was some kind of AA/Anti Orbital artillery since the Fishheads knew those Drop Troopers were coming which leads me to believe the new arrivals might be allies.
Or they are similar to the Fishheads in that they disregard humans as a backwater, underdeveloped and ultimately useless species that just gets into the way of their own war.
Nice way to end the season! Forget the biker gang explanation, I'm going back to my old favorite idea that Earth is just a small battle in some intergalactic epic war between the fishies and the new lizard guys. Harnessing slave species and using their planets as garrisons is a tactic the fishies are using to fight a foe that might have superior numbers.
Or, the fishies really are space pirates and the new guys are Starfleet, come to save the day!
They run around trying to undo all the chaos the fishies cause, apparently with no pesky Prime Directive to get in the way.
Either way, the new guys are probably impressed by the locals' ability to blow up the anti-spacecraft weapon that as keeping them at bay. How much consideration or respect this earns Earth is yet to be seen.
I just want to eventually see an alien planet! Let's go liberate the skitter homeworld.
The bug in Hal's ear looks like it has a different purpose than the one that crawled out of Tom's eye - its a mind control device, but apparently quicker and more complete than harnessing. Which begs the question, why not use bugs instead of harnesses, but maybe the bug is a short term thing.
Or, the fishies really are space pirates and the new guys are Starfleet, come to save the day!
They run around trying to undo all the chaos the fishies cause, apparently with no pesky Prime Directive to get in the way.Either way, the new guys are probably impressed by the locals' ability to blow up the anti-spacecraft weapon that as keeping them at bay. How much consideration or respect this earns Earth is yet to be seen.
I just want to eventually see an alien planet! Let's go liberate the skitter homeworld.
The bug in Hal's ear looks like it has a different purpose than the one that crawled out of Tom's eye - its a mind control device, but apparently quicker and more complete than harnessing. Which begs the question, why not use bugs instead of harnesses, but maybe the bug is a short term thing.
Since the gun was pointed UP and the newbies didn't appear until the gun was destroyed, it reads like Redeye was working for the newbies all along. The new aliens could be allies, enemies, or enemies of the fish heads and the humans are incidental. Any way you go, Redeye was siding with the newbies.
So, who's monitoring Hal? Rebels or fishheads?
So, who's monitoring Hal? Rebels or fishheads?
Or possibly the new lizard aliens? They could be montoring things covertly.
I think Hal got the bug when whats-her-face kissed him. I'm thinking she's the one spying through him or another fish head coming in to replace the other one.
let assume the fish heads and the new guys are enemies. What happens to humans then ? We can take parallels from history.
1) WW2 Western Europe : The Nazis conquer Western Europe but after the Americans and British liberate those countries, France, Belgium and Netherlands became democratic & developed countries.
Those new guys could liberate us and then help rebuild human society. They might even have their own version of the Marshall plan to help the war devastated humans.
2) WW2 Eastern Europe : Nazis conquer Eastern Europe. The Soviets then liberate Eastern European countries. But those countries quickly became subjugated Soviet satellites by having pro communist regimes installed. Dissent is not tolerated. Economic, political and social freedoms are curtailed.
The new guys could be interstellar "Soviets". They fight and drive off the fish heads but then take over earth and subjugate humans even further.
1) WW2 Western Europe : The Nazis conquer Western Europe but after the Americans and British liberate those countries, France, Belgium and Netherlands became democratic & developed countries.
Those new guys could liberate us and then help rebuild human society. They might even have their own version of the Marshall plan to help the war devastated humans.
2) WW2 Eastern Europe : Nazis conquer Eastern Europe. The Soviets then liberate Eastern European countries. But those countries quickly became subjugated Soviet satellites by having pro communist regimes installed. Dissent is not tolerated. Economic, political and social freedoms are curtailed.
The new guys could be interstellar "Soviets". They fight and drive off the fish heads but then take over earth and subjugate humans even further.
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^^^ I could easily see an "out of the frying pan and into the fire"-type scenario as a central plot for fourth-season, with third season centering around the new guys teaming up with humans to oust the fish heads. Once fishies are gone, the new guys start the occupational force on earth as the season 3 cliff-hanger, starting the cycle all over again. The humans will have to find a new way of defeating them. That would be my prediction for the next two years, if they continue the show.
^^ That would be my thought as well... The whole "Eastern Europe" post WWII thing makes more sense from a plot stand point... It wouldn't make very dramatic TV for the new aliens to land, lay waste to the fishheads and then everyone lives happily ever after... Guess we'll see... In 2013..
Lots of good stuff here. I like how Tom wouldn't put up the coup attempt and how all the 2nd Massers formed a line to protect the Skitters. And Manchester actually learned something from the experience. Matt Frewer does well as the general; I've never seen him play a serious part before.
Now we have an explanation of the mysterious devices-- the Fishies knew the Beefcakes were on their way the whole time. That may also explain their lack of resources; they're putting all the manpower they can into building antispacecraft weapons.
It's interesting, because this is exactly what I wanted to see happen with V back in the day. The first mini-series ended with the Humans sending out a message to the Visitors unseen "enemy" asking for help. They completely dropped that plotline, though.
So now we may have an ally against the Fishies-- but they sure don't look too friendly.
Now we have an explanation of the mysterious devices-- the Fishies knew the Beefcakes were on their way the whole time. That may also explain their lack of resources; they're putting all the manpower they can into building antispacecraft weapons.
It's interesting, because this is exactly what I wanted to see happen with V back in the day. The first mini-series ended with the Humans sending out a message to the Visitors unseen "enemy" asking for help. They completely dropped that plotline, though.
So now we may have an ally against the Fishies-- but they sure don't look too friendly.
What i got from the final episode is that there is no weird subtext shit going on.
This is the fishheads trying as hard as they can to kill man.
Which means that they suck.
This is the fishheads trying as hard as they can to kill man.
Which means that they suck.
Very Good Finale
Bummed about Dai, almost shed a tear when his body dropped limp. He was a good character, it's a shame they didn't use him more and made him fodder. Didn't succeed with the "almost" part when they were talking about him after returning to the Compound.
Even more bummed about Red Eye, He did a great job of summoning compassion for the Character in this episode. Couldn't fight back the tear on this one. On top of how sad that is, we now lose our direct connection with the Skitter Rebellion, and don't have an immediately identifiable Rebel to trust
Loved Tom smacking the Overload around with the "Pain Stick", instead of zapping him with it, and planting it as a flag in the Overload was real cool, but, how's he know where fatal is? I mean, any hole through your torso that big and violently produced could be pretty fatal, but, these are resilient aliens, so, it's possible the Heart could be in the left big toe or some other Dues Ex Machina that allows him to survive.
So, are the Reptilians their enemy, or their bosses. It'll be more interesting, IMHO if they are their enemy. Yea, the Gun was pointed at Space, but, is that it's primary position, or it's default "rest" position? With the Population reduction, and the overwhelming technical advantage, it doesn't seem practical to be building something like that defend against Domestic Terrorism, so, yea, probably a defense against Space threat. But, these New Reptilian Aliens could be the Real Bosses arriving before the real enemy arrives Mid Season 3. If this is an enemy Race, how will we communicate with them?
Bummed about Dai, almost shed a tear when his body dropped limp. He was a good character, it's a shame they didn't use him more and made him fodder. Didn't succeed with the "almost" part when they were talking about him after returning to the Compound.
Even more bummed about Red Eye, He did a great job of summoning compassion for the Character in this episode. Couldn't fight back the tear on this one. On top of how sad that is, we now lose our direct connection with the Skitter Rebellion, and don't have an immediately identifiable Rebel to trust
Loved Tom smacking the Overload around with the "Pain Stick", instead of zapping him with it, and planting it as a flag in the Overload was real cool, but, how's he know where fatal is? I mean, any hole through your torso that big and violently produced could be pretty fatal, but, these are resilient aliens, so, it's possible the Heart could be in the left big toe or some other Dues Ex Machina that allows him to survive.
So, are the Reptilians their enemy, or their bosses. It'll be more interesting, IMHO if they are their enemy. Yea, the Gun was pointed at Space, but, is that it's primary position, or it's default "rest" position? With the Population reduction, and the overwhelming technical advantage, it doesn't seem practical to be building something like that defend against Domestic Terrorism, so, yea, probably a defense against Space threat. But, these New Reptilian Aliens could be the Real Bosses arriving before the real enemy arrives Mid Season 3. If this is an enemy Race, how will we communicate with them?
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Did you ever read V: The Second Generation? It was written by Kenneth Johnson, the creator of V. Its not the best book in the world but it does follow up with the Visitor's enemies coming to Earth.
The War of the Worlds TV series had the same thing happen, but I don't think it ever got followed up on. If my memories are correct, they teamed up with some sort of robotic lady who was from another alien race. Harrison thought since she was against the aliens, they were allies. But it turned out they would've been even bigger baddies.
No, I never even heard of that. I should try to track it down, just to see what he had in mind for the second aliens.
I don't remember that at all. But I'm not sure if I watched that show all the way through to the end. I was very disappointed that they made the Martians look like Humans.
That was sadly dropped when the rebooted the show in the craptacular season 2.
Yea, S1 Finale introduced the new Aliens and S2 started with a time jump (I believe) and never mentioned the new Aliens again
Or, the humans are the native Americans, the Fish Heads are the British and the Lizards are the settled British colonists.
Didn't work out very well for the native Americans did it?
MMmmmm...warm blankets....
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