Is Nuwho just continuing testimoney during Ttrial of a Timelord?

[Guy Gardener]

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Doctor's_age

Seven is 953 years old.

At some point, the timelords are going to fold back over the last 7 years, and the rest of the series as yet unfilmed and get back to Colin, so that they never have to fight the Timewar...

What we are watching is probably the events that lead to the creation of the Valeyard.

 

[Joy]

I like that!

 

[Nightowl1701]

Rule #1: The Doctor lies. Especially about his age. When he says he's 1103, add about 500 years to that. (OK, maybe 300.)

 

[Skellington]

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Doctor's_age

Seven is 953 years old.

At some point, the timelords are going to fold back over the last 7 years, and the rest of the series as yet unfilmed and get back to Colin, so that they never have to fight the Timewar...

From the point of view of narration, this would be what's known as "cheating", so probably not. Anyway, what about The Sixteen Doctors in 2038?

Anyway, age isn't a big problem. In my own fanon 953 was Gallifrey years and he now tends to use Earth years since Gallifrey is now just a memory. A ratio of 900 Earth years to 1200 Gallifrey years works pretty well.

 

[Lonemagpie]

The Doctor is known to lie about his age- Four is caught out at it in The Ribos Operation

 

[Christopher]

Heck, the Third Doctor once nearly claimed to be thousands of years old.

Steven Moffat has said that he doesn't think the Doctor remembers how old he actually is. And really, how could he? He's a time traveller. How would he even measure his age? Relative to what origin point? According to what planet's year lengths? To someone whose view of -- and relationship to -- time is as fluid as the Doctor's, the idea of assigning a specific number to represent how long you've lived has got to seem arbitrary at best, if not a complete joke. So it's no surprise he'd just pull a number out of a hat.

 

[Pavonis]

The Doctor often seemed to be counting his age from the time he "stole" the TARDIS (or was stolen by it). Nine said he was 900, while also claiming he'd traveled through time and space for 900 years (and had never been hit by a mother). Ten seemed to increment his age by one year every season (especially making a point of announcing it in the Christmas specials). Of course, that's gone out the window now, since the TARDIS herself said they'd only been together 700 years. If either of them knows about the passing of time, I'd lean a bit more on the TARDIS's estimate. Of course, for an entity that spans the entirety of space-time, what's 700 years to her? It could be 70 years or 7000 years and still be an incredibly tiny error over trillions of years!

 

[MacLeod]

To quote River Song, "Rule One, The Doctor Lies"

either that or he has forgotten.

Do we always tell the truth when asked about our age? Or do we phrase it with terms such as 30ish, or the day before our birthday, when we are as almost a year older do we say almost x years old or do we say are actual age.

It might depend on how signifignat that birthday is, such as our 18th Birthday.

 

[Sindatur]

Heck, the Third Doctor once nearly claimed to be thousands of years old.

Steven Moffat has said that he doesn't think the Doctor remembers how old he actually is. And really, how could he? He's a time traveller. How would he even measure his age? Relative to what origin point? According to what planet's year lengths? To someone whose view of -- and relationship to -- time is as fluid as the Doctor's, the idea of assigning a specific number to represent how long you've lived has got to seem arbitrary at best, if not a complete joke. So it's no surprise he'd just pull a number out of a hat.

Gallifrey has always been portrayed as being a fixed time line for Time Lords (Not quite what I mean, but, I can't find a better way of saying it), I look at it like Grenwich Meantime. So, I think when Gallifrey was still around, the Doctor could (and probably would) refer to that timescale (IE: He knows the Gallifrey year if he was to go to Gallifrey in the present, so, should be able to calculate his age accurately. And Timelords aren't supposed to be travelling to Gallifrey in the past or future, as they aren't supposed to interact with their former or future selves, it's a Time Crime, so, that fixed scale is ever present)

Once Gallifrey was taken out, yea, I agree with Christopher, no way for him to really keep track while bouncing back and forth through time, so, his age after the Time War is pretty much a crap shoot

I do hope, once we get to the 12th Doctor (or near his Regeneration into 13) that we do indeed revisit The Valleyard in some manner (if they don't do so before then)*

*I think that's correct, The Valleyard is in between the 11th and 12th Regenerations (Between Doctors 12 and 13)?

 

[Guy Gardener]

He's counting his birthdays, but is he celebrating them?

 

[Christopher]

*I think that's correct, The Valleyard is in between the 11th and 12th Regenerations (Between Doctors 12 and 13)?

That's right. So when the actor after Smith decides to leave, that would be the time to deal with it.

Then again, the Valeyard was clearly able to travel back to a time when Gallifrey existed, before the Time Lock -- and before the Time War wrought havoc with history itself. It's possible that whole potential future for the Doctor was erased.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The wrong Gallifrey is probably floating in the heavens since the didn't notice it dead before hand upsteam of 2008.

 

[MacLeod]

As others have said, he could at one point giving his age in Galifrian years, but when that was time-locked in the last great time war. He switched to Human years as Earth seems to be his adopted home planet now.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Meanwhile I'm not completely sure if Gallifrey is planet any more by the start/end of the time war, watching it float out of that portal in the End of Time, and not a mobile battle station, because if you're not fixed in orbit of a star then you're not a planet.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

Meanwhile I'm not completely sure if Gallifrey is planet any more by the start/end of the time war, watching it float out of that portal in the End of Time, and not a mobile battle station, because if you're not fixed in orbit of a star then you're not a planet.

Actually, that's one of the many reasons why I'm not a planet.

 

[Lonemagpie]

*I think that's correct, The Valleyard is in between the 11th and 12th Regenerations (Between Doctors 12 and 13)?

That's right. So when the actor after Smith decides to leave, that would be the time to deal with it.

No, it's after the next guy. Matt is the 11th Doctor - 10th regeneration.

 

[MadOnion]

He's counting his birthdays, but is he celebrating them?

That would be quite a lot of bacon to arrange.

 

[Christopher]

...because if you're not fixed in orbit of a star then you're not a planet.

That's not true. A planetary-mass object not in orbit of a star is called a rogue planet, or alternatively an interstellar planet, free-floating planet, nomad planet, or orphan planet. The term planetar is also sometimes used, as is "planemo" (short for planetary-mass object).

That's right. So when the actor after Smith decides to leave, that would be the time to deal with it.

No, it's after the next guy. Matt is the 11th Doctor - 10th regeneration.

Yes, that's what I said -- when the actor after Smith decides to leave, i.e. at the end of the 12th Doctor's tenure.

 

[Lonemagpie]

...because if you're not fixed in orbit of a star then you're not a planet.

That's not true. A planetary-mass object not in orbit of a star is called a rogue planet, or alternatively an interstellar planet, free-floating planet, nomad planet, or orphan planet. The term planetar is also sometimes used, as is "planemo" (short for planetary-mass object).

That's right. So when the actor after Smith decides to leave, that would be the time to deal with it.

No, it's after the next guy. Matt is the 11th Doctor - 10th regeneration.

Yes, that's what I said -- when the actor after Smith decides to leave, i.e. at the end of the 12th Doctor's tenure.

Yeah, I seem to have missed the first part of the sentence, replying before coffee...

 

[Guy Gardener]

I actually thought about rogue planets while typing what I typed, thinking about that horrible episode of Enterprise when Archer goes hunting invisible aliens on a Rogue Planet, then I thought about that band Rogue Traders, then I thought about the decimation of the earth in the last of the Timelords and then I thought about Lucy Saxon dancing. Yeah I thought about Lucy dancing for quite a while. Just the way she'd bite her lip and one shoe would dangle almost like it might fall off but...

My final decision was that I needed to watch the final season of Hotel Babylon again because Lucy, or at least the actress who played her, is all over that, and then as an addendum where I chose to believe that if a Rogue planet was a planet then it would just be called a planet and not a rogue planet, because I often use bad logic to justify bad choices.

However, after briefly looking through the wiki you supplied, a rouge planet isn't just an aimless hippy wandering about like Kain from Kung Fu, it's in orbit of the center of the galaxy like all the solar systems, which Gallifrey is not.

Gallifrey has an engine which can be steered and it is driven.

There's nothing Rogue about it.

Which brings us back to mobile battlestation, if George doesn't try to sue me.

But I was talking in absolutes and not specifics.

Is a planet still a planet if it buggers off?

If a dwarf planet isn't a planet then a rogue planet isn't a planet which follows my earlier bad logic and perhaps assures victory.