Noted. My mouth and temper ran away from me, man. Won't happen again.
Chick-fil-A digging themselves a hole
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Have you bought anything at Best Buy, Target, Urban Outfitters, or fueled up at Exxon? If you have, you are funding hate towards a group of people. Specifically gay people. I'll bet many here have spent more at these places than someone who eats every meal at Chick-Fil-A, all year long.
And the list of corporations and CEO's who donate to the same charities or anti-gay politicians is going to be a very long one.
http://nyulocal.com/on-campus/2012/...r-corporations-donate-to-anti-gay-causes-too/
As Jesus said, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Of course after that he said, "Ouch! Damnit mom!"
The actions of others don't make Chick-fil-A's less odious.
In the interest of not presenting a distorted record, it should be pointed out that Target CEO Gregg Steinhafel apologized to Target employees for donating funds to MN Forward:
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Not at all.
As long as we're in charge (Christians in general) and our values dominate society anyway we're quite happy.
They do not now, of course but having it our way for 150 years give or take (in the U.S.) gives us hope that one day we'll have it our way again.
Things change. Sometimes for the better (to my perspective).
^Well, it would help calm things if one of you folks hadn't murdered Chick-Fil-A's vice president in charge of public relations today.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/27/us/chick-fil-a-executive-death/index.html
They're not saying it's murder, but you guys know what you did! Fess up!
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/27/us/chick-fil-a-executive-death/index.html
They're not saying it's murder, but you guys know what you did! Fess up!
Citgo is a partially state-owned Venezuelan oil company overseen by an authoritarian firebrand who hates America and cozies up to some of this country's enemies. I choose not to gas up at Citgo stations because I don't want my money going into Hugo Chavez's pockets or those of the cronies who surround him down in Caracas.
It's the same with Chick-Fil-A so far as I'm concerned. Even if I didn't already dislike the company and its food I'd steer a wide path around them because of the same-sex issue.
It's the same with Chick-Fil-A so far as I'm concerned. Even if I didn't already dislike the company and its food I'd steer a wide path around them because of the same-sex issue.
In the case of Best Buy and Target there it seems like there's a few degrees of separation between the business entity and the action(s) of hate. Through Senators who speak out certain ways, through PACs, etc. Whereas CFA donates directly to a group specializing specifically in furthering intolerance and hate.
CFA also does it openly and proudly with a business head who stands on a moral high-ground seeing himself more superior than homosexuals and given his statements it's not too far to reach to see that it has to bleed over in business practices.
Best Buy giving money to a man running for Senate with extreme views is worlds away from the sole owner of a company donating money to a group that wants to curb rights for others and then expresses his views that God punishes America for supporting gay rights.
CFA also does it openly and proudly with a business head who stands on a moral high-ground seeing himself more superior than homosexuals and given his statements it's not too far to reach to see that it has to bleed over in business practices.
Best Buy giving money to a man running for Senate with extreme views is worlds away from the sole owner of a company donating money to a group that wants to curb rights for others and then expresses his views that God punishes America for supporting gay rights.
Yes, there are degrees, and I was wondering how much of the cost of a chicken sandwhich ever ends up funding an ad against gays. Chick-Fil-A takes in $4.1 billion a year. Does anyone know the amounts that were given?
Almost every dollar we spend has some tiny fraction going to a cause we detest. Lots of companies donated to environmental organizations that were instrumental in making sure the UN suppressed the use of DDT to fight malaria, killing tens of millions of minority babies. Sometimes it gets even more bizarre. A few months ago I bought a thumb drive at Walgreens and the tax money went to the NIH which sent it to the Aurora shooter to buy the bullet that shot the six-year old.
And your dominance came at the expense of a lot of people, you know. It's no coincidence you were tossed out on your holy asses as that began to change.
The death was obviously just really horrible timing and my heart goes out to the guy's family if he had one. But no, I don't think that the righteous indignation over the company's same-sex stances and practices is even remotely to blame.
Sometimes terrible and tragic health crises happen in the middle of controversy or scandal. It happens.
Sometimes terrible and tragic health crises happen in the middle of controversy or scandal. It happens.
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Well said. May he rest in peace.
I know, you'd think there was a major world event going on tonight or that it was late evening in parts of the country where people are preparing for bed either with their children or themselves.
Yeah, you West Coast people have your night just starting. I'm an hour from bed.
Yeah, you West Coast people have your night just starting. I'm an hour from bed.
I'm on the East Coast and it's 10:30, but as hot as it is outside right now you'd think it were still three or four the afternoon.
Not as nasty as it was a couple of weeks ago, but I've had to crank the AC higher than I want.
TBBS needs a sweating-from-the-heat emoticon. Let that be the next request to the Lords That Be™.
Been nice and cooler here the last couple days but that'll change in the next week. 9:30 and it's 83 right now outside, my apartment thermostat remains around 70. I'm watching "The Big Goodbye" on TNG BD right now.
And you've chosen to be a bigot, and it's time that you take responsibility for it.
No, no. You're not being "labeled" a bigot, or "called names" because that implies that people have got it wrong. Your words and support of an organization that uses it's profits to actively deny people rights is what **makes** you a bigot. You complaining about being "labeled" would be like the sun whining about being "labeled" a sun when it fits all the requirements for being a sun.
Oh and the Jesus comment.....there isn't a "LOLZ!!!1!one!" big enough for that one.
You're awesome.
Ok, any finite amount of time set against infinity is basically non-existent. Imagine two lines being drawn parallel to each other and these lines represent "time". Every inch is one year. One line stops at fifty trillion billenia. Set against infinity that vast amount of time becomes utterly insignificant and compared to the never ending line, it would soon disappear. So this idea that people here will suffer an infinity of torment for a measly 80 years (if you're lucky to make it to 80) is so monumentally ridiculous as to be beyond definition.
This kind of scare tactic worked on the primitives, it doesn't work anymore.
No, you're just taking someone else's word that god said it and it never occurred to you that they might've been lying or just plain wrong.
Then you guys need to stop whining about the 10 Commandments being taken down in government buildings.
Or it could've created humans already prepared from the fucking beginning and avoided untold misery.
Ah, so now it's "hey fellas, I just like eating a good ole' Chick-Fil-A sandwhich....Where's the harm in that?"
One more time: When the money that you spend at an organization is being used to deny people rights, then yes, you are helping to provide the funding that they need to be successful. There's no walking away from that or playing the victim, especially if you're likening the actions of homosexuals to pedophelia, or beastiality. Neither you, nor anyone else, gets to make that kind of a statement then complain or play victim when identified as a bigot.
Time to be a man, and take responsibility for your views. I'm sorry that you don't like dealing with the consequences of those views, but really, that's too bad.
Word.
