The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

[jefferiestubes8]

Regarding the audio, they've stated it's being mixed for 7.1 surround, but I haven't heard how exactly they're doing it. I would imagine that if they're completely recompositing the sound they'd have made a bigger deal about it. My guess is they're using the 5.1, remixing it and tweaking it as needed

I would think they would take the stems (dialogue, stereo music, sound effects) that they used in 2002 to remix the sound to 5.1 for the DVD release now and remix it to 7.1 for the Blu-ray release.
They either are doing it from the stems for all episodes or doing a matrixing software taking the 5.1 mix from 2002 and making it 7.1.
For any special episodes they might extend they would have to remix any specific scenes in 7.1 from the stems and that would also entail a lot more work. See this thread:
Measure of a man - extended version on blueray
for a possible but unannounced season 2 special feature if they go back to the camera negative to create this. They would have to go back to the 1/4" analog audio reels of production sound and possibly place new sound FX and ambiences, and possible unused music cues. Since it is unofficial please direct any comments you have for that episode on that thread.
If any other episodes did an extended version the same level of audio work would apply. I would love to see them dive into the audio archive for computer voice and the use of a possible database library from Majel Barrett of words and syllables, vowel sounds to create a computer voice sampling for a future Trek series and Star Trek XIII. See this post .
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=77868&highlight=voice

 

[trekker670]

The press release states that

Blu-ray set will be available in 1080p with English 7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio

So the 1080i was indeed a typo and it simply states that's the resolution of the BD, not the resolution of the masters, which that article implies.

 

[Trekker4747]

Well, for me, that shot from "Datalore" changes my understanding of Federation shields. I always thought that starships were protected within one shield 'bubble'; now, it appears that starships were protected by two shield 'bubbles'.

The inner "bubble" may be the ship's own natural deflector shields as opposed to the outer defensive shields.

 

[Sho]

^ AFAIK it ought to be the other way around, the deflector shield is a lot wider no?

 

[Maxwell Everett]

Cleaned up those two new beauty shots of the Enterprise-D for those who'd like to use them as wallpapers:

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9720/enterprisedbeautyshot.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3973/enterpriseearthorbit.jpg

 

[Trekker4747]

^ AFAIK it ought to be the other way around, the deflector shield is a lot wider no?

IIRC the deflector shield is layered sort of like an onion.

: pulls out the TNG Tech Manual :

The graphic in the Tech Manual does depict something much larger than what we see on screen there but this could be "artistic license" or the Crystalline Entity was simply interacting with some of the inner layer(s) of the deflector shield as well as the defensive shield.

It's not clear what purpose the "layers" of the deflector shield serve unless the "size" of the object can penetrate deeper into the shields. The graphic shows two "submicron" objects being deflected by the passive deflector shields; both objects have the same angle of attack and relative distance vertically from the ship's flight path. One deflects off the outer-most layer and one penetrates into the second of five layers. The inner most layer being well ahead of the ship. Neither object looks like it's flight path would've posed a danger to the ship (though that'd be no reason to not deflect it.)

The inner most layer of the deflector shield is about half the ship's length out from the saucer section (according to the graphic) the outer-most layer being about twice the ship's length out from the front of the saucer section.

The graphic also presents an "active" deflector system that pushes a macroscopic object out of the ship's way (possibly using low-level tractor beams) well before it impacts the deflector shields.

(The Crystalline Entity likely would be much to large for these active deflector shields to have any impact on it.)

The deflector shields, naturally, ignore interstellar Hydrogen which is allowed inside the ships shields where its collected by the ramscoops for use as fuel.

Unfortuantely there's no graphic for how the defensive shields are laid out.

So, I suspect that the "inner shield" we see could be one of the inner most deflector shields being interacted with by the Crystalline Entity as it moves and interacts with the defensive shield. "Something" is happening here between the two shield systems and the peculiarities of the Crystalline Entity that may not necessarily represent how either shield system works. Or, yeah, the "inner shield" could be the defensive shield and the outer one being one of the layers of the deflector shield.

 

[davejames]

Cleaned up those two new beauty shots of the Enterprise-D for those who'd like to use them as wallpapers:

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9720/enterprisedbeautyshot.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3973/enterpriseearthorbit.jpg

I know it's a minority opinion, but seeing these awesome widescreen shots really does make me want to see the entire series this way.

It just makes the show look SO much more dynamic.

 

[TheSeeker]

I know what you mean. It's too bad there wasn't a larger protected area when they filmed but I'm glad the didn't crop the picture to achieve 16:9 and stuck with 4:3.

 

[Sho]

I don't know why, but I still have a certain fondness for the 4:3 aspect ratio. I enjoy watching 4:3 shows. I wouldn't say more than 16:9 or to the exclusion of 4:3, but I enjoy it. There's a certain focus it brings, and it's all right there in the center of your eye, no frills.

 

[Warped9]

Cleaned up those two new beauty shots of the Enterprise-D for those who'd like to use them as wallpapers:

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9720/enterprisedbeautyshot.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3973/enterpriseearthorbit.jpg

Man, that is seriously nice!

 

[FrontierTrek]

Updated TrekCore with a new video interview from the Comic-Con TNG Remastered Panel:

http://tng.trekcore.com/bluray/index.html#comiccon1

Some highlights:
- The team now seem to be half way through Season 3 in locating film stock (Deja Q)
- CBS have DS9 HD "officially on our radar now" and are encouraging fans to make their desire for it known!

 

[Skywalker]

- CBS have DS9 HD "officially on our radar now" and are encouraging fans to make their desire for it known!

This pleases me.

 

[Sho]

Something might be screwy in your CMS though, I see the video interview item linked from your front page but it clicks through to nothing.

Edit: Now it started working.

 

[MacLeod]

- CBS have DS9 HD "officially on our radar now" and are encouraging fans to make their desire for it known!

This pleases me.

No doubt this pleases many fans. Myself included.

 

[Sho]

This is really an incredible amount of wish fulfilment ... remember only a few years ago when most of us were either it's not doable or nah, never going to happen? Even if we dared to hope, I think there were only an extreme few who put the likelyhood at anything greater than maybe. And now we'll be watching season 1 in HD in only a few short days and are hearing encouraging things about attempting to do DS9.

 

[Tosk]

As much as I am looking forward to having all of TNG on Blu, the thought that DS9 will be next (Please oh please!) makes me giddy with long-term excitement.

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

I know the feeling, Tosk. Whoo!

You want me to make my desire for DS9 HD known, CBS? You don't know what you've gotten yourselves into. I'm a Trekkie, writing impassioned letters is part of my heritage!

 

[MacLeod]

Now of course the next question in relation to DSN if it was remastered for HD. Most of the CGI effects would have to be replaced. So would we want :-

a.>The SFX shots done to match the original broadcast version
b.>Instead of using recycled footage in later epsiodes would we want all new footage.

Plus of course they could fix the Defiant in WYLB so it says NCC-74205-A

 

[Sho]

I'd like them to recreate the original coreography as closely as possible, but I'm not opposed to minor fixes like registries. I think generally speaking I like small consistency fixes like that, but I want there to remain one true shot otherwise.

 

[MickJo1701]

Now of course the next question in relation to DSN if it was remastered for HD. Most of the CGI effects would have to be replaced. So would we want :-

a.>The SFX shots done to match the original broadcast version
b.>Instead of using recycled footage in later epsiodes would we want all new footage.

Plus of course they could fix the Defiant in WYLB so it says NCC-74205-A

I'd sooner it say NCC-75633, the Enterprise, due to its fame should be the only ship to keep its registry.