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MacGyver vs Indiana Jones

MacGyver vs. Indiana Jones...Which would you follow?

  • Indiana Jones

    Votes: 19 70.4%
  • MacGyver

    Votes: 8 29.6%

  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .
A lot of people seem to die around Indy. True, most of them are the bad guys, but I have a suspicion I'd be safer with Mac. Plus, I'd learn a lot more practical stuff from Mac.

Very good point!

Would that knowledge help you more in planning to escape?

My point: Indy escapes; MacGyver escapes....

Luck, fortune, or plan?

They both win, one by sheer luck, (dont believe that), one by sheer happanstance.

I think Indy would have been gone while Mac was figuring a way...
 
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I haven't heard any good explanations for why Indy would be better at a given situation than MacGyver. The question on the table is who would be a better problem-solver. We know that Mac is able to solve the same kinds of problems Indy dealt with, finding ancient relics and surviving deathtraps in tombs and so on, but we have no reason to believe Indy could solve many of the problems Mac dealt with -- for instance, does anyone actually think Indiana Jones would be able to stop a nuclear reactor from melting down or defuse a bomb built by a disgruntled physics student? I think it's a given that MacGyver is at least a more eclectic problem-solver, qualified in areas Dr. Jones would be lost in. So are you guys just saying that you think Indy would be better at solving only the narrow range of problems that he's trained to cope with? I'm not sure that really addresses the question, and it's also a bit axiomatic -- one would naturally expect a specialist to be better in his particular field than a generalist. But the generalist could cope with situations where the specialist would be helpless.

Now, if we imagine either that Indy comes across a magical time-travel artifact or MacGyver has one of his Gilliganesque dream episodes and the two are thus able to team up in their respective primes (rather than Mac having to team with an Indy who's older than his Grandpa Harry), I think they'd get along very well and make a good team. Mac would be uneasy with Indy's casual use of deadly force, but I think Indy would respect Mac's intelligence and resourcefulness enough to go along with it when Mac came up with a less violent but equally effective approach. He is a professor, after all, so they would bond on an intellectual level.
 
I voted indy because I hate MacGyver so much that I would be puking if I was standing beside him.
 
I haven't heard any good explanations for why Indy would be better at a given situation than MacGyver. The question on the table is who would be a better problem-solver.


And the other question was who would you rather have on your side, and I would rather have the guy willing to use a weapon than the guy trying to Rube Goldberg his way past a hundred of them.
 
I voted indy because I hate MacGyver so much that I would be puking if I was standing beside him.

But MacGyver would still try to solve your problem -- or save your life -- even if you didn't like him. Indy's usually more invested in pursuing his own goals and doesn't have a lot of patience with people who get in his way. Indy would put up with you if you were on his side, but MacGyver's the one who'd actually be on your side.
 
I haven't heard any good explanations for why Indy would be better at a given situation than MacGyver. The question on the table is who would be a better problem-solver. We know that Mac is able to solve the same kinds of problems Indy dealt with, finding ancient relics and surviving deathtraps in tombs and so on, but we have no reason to believe Indy could solve many of the problems Mac dealt with -- for instance, does anyone actually think Indiana Jones would be able to stop a nuclear reactor from melting down or defuse a bomb built by a disgruntled physics student? I think it's a given that MacGyver is at least a more eclectic problem-solver, qualified in areas Dr. Jones would be lost in. So are you guys just saying that you think Indy would be better at solving only the narrow range of problems that he's trained to cope with? I'm not sure that really addresses the question, and it's also a bit axiomatic -- one would naturally expect a specialist to be better in his particular field than a generalist. But the generalist could cope with situations where the specialist would be helpless.

Now, if we imagine either that Indy comes across a magical time-travel artifact or MacGyver has one of his Gilliganesque dream episodes and the two are thus able to team up in their respective primes (rather than Mac having to team with an Indy who's older than his Grandpa Harry), I think they'd get along very well and make a good team. Mac would be uneasy with Indy's casual use of deadly force, but I think Indy would respect Mac's intelligence and resourcefulness enough to go along with it when Mac came up with a less violent but equally effective approach. He is a professor, after all, so they would bond on an intellectual level.

In my opinion, Christoper, Indy doesnt think, just gets on with it.

Mac will solve the problem, but might be a bit short on time.

Other than that, your explantion stands very well; I guess that's why you're a writer!

They are equal. But I'd still ride with Indy.

For example; how would have Mac gotten off the ship in "Crusade"?

Taken a life -raft as a weapon, and cleared the deck?

OOOPs...LOL

Excellent conversation, all. Thanks
 
I voted indy because I hate MacGyver so much that I would be puking if I was standing beside him.

But MacGyver would still try to solve your problem -- or save your life -- even if you didn't like him. Indy's usually more invested in pursuing his own goals and doesn't have a lot of patience with people who get in his way. I

I think the children of Mayapore Village would disagree with your assessment of Indy. :)
 
I voted indy because I hate MacGyver so much that I would be puking if I was standing beside him.

Macgyver would figure out a way to make Pepto Bismol out of bubble gum and an old car battery to help you out with that.
 
Indy, for the simple reason that he's a homage to the 1930s paradigm of matinee/pulp idols who always win, through derring-do, gumption, sheer luck or writer-is-God syndrome. MacGyver needs at least the veneer of plausibility; Indy is not thus constrained. Exhibit A is the scene in Temple Of Doom where the mining cart transporting our heroes runs out of track and shoots through the air but conveniently lands on another track directly below and just keeps going.
 
I think setting has to play a role here. MacGyver has a lot of skills, but if he is back in the 1930s a huge amount of what he can do becomes limited. Likewise, many of Indy's adventures are in jungles and deserts, far from civilization. MacGyver is at a disadvantage the further you remove him from technology and civilization whereas Indy becomes more and more in his element.
 
Please. MaGyver would have been able to repair The Minnow with 3 coconuts, some palm leafs and one of Ginger's dresses. :p
 
I think setting has to play a role here. MacGyver has a lot of skills, but if he is back in the 1930s a huge amount of what he can do becomes limited.

The Swiss Army knife was introduced in 1891. Duct tape was introduced in 1942. So if we're talking WWII or after, MacGyver's got 90% of his standard toolkit available. Set it earlier, without the duct tape, and he'd still be able to get by. His inventions often made use of lots of low-tech stuff -- string, matches, water hoses, hairpins, household chemicals, sticks and boards, you name it. Or stuff that would've been widely available in the '30s or '40s, like car or motorcycle parts, cigarette lighters, chewing gum, etc. And he was certainly good at improvising bombs from chemicals and components that would have been available in abundance in the '30s or '40s.


Likewise, many of Indy's adventures are in jungles and deserts, far from civilization. MacGyver is at a disadvantage the further you remove him from technology and civilization whereas Indy becomes more and more in his element.

Not true. MacGyver was a globetrotting adventurer whose missions often took him to the wilderness or to remote places with backward technology. For that matter, his recreational activities often entailed roughing it in the wilds. Not to mention that, as I said, there were several episodes directly inspired by the Indiana Jones movies, in which MacGyver went on quests to find ancient relics and dealt with traps and puzzles in ancient tombs. There were also the "dream" episodes where he went back to Arthurian times and the Old West, and was able to apply his ingenuity effectively in those settings. True, those probably didn't "really" happen, but it shows he had the ability to imagine solutions that could work in settings far more low-tech than the 1930s.
 
Sure, I remember a number of episodes with Mac tromping around in the forest. And he can be creative in any setting, but it handicaps him if there is nothing around him other than bare jungle or forest. No abandoned mining supplies. No hunting lodge. No man-made objects of any sort.

Of course, at that point we may as well just settle things with a fistfight between Indy and Mac which is kind of boring.
 
Sure, I remember a number of episodes with Mac tromping around in the forest. And he can be creative in any setting, but it handicaps him if there is nothing around him other than bare jungle or forest. No abandoned mining supplies. No hunting lodge. No man-made objects of any sort.

What, do you think he wouldn't have pockets? He brings his Swiss Army knife with him wherever he goes. More importantly, he brings his brain with him wherever he goes. Give him some sticks, leaves, rocks, and mud and he can do something useful with them. Read the list of MacGyverisms I linked to above. There's plenty of low tech and natural resources there.

Besides, it's a spurious comparison. Since when has Indiana Jones been completely devoid of any man-made objects? Usually, at the very least, he has his whip and gun. A lot of the stuff he does, he does by stealing or co-opting the bad guys' vehicles, weapons, life rafts, etc., or by maneuvering the bad guys chasing him into shooting at/crashing into each other with their own weapons/vehicles. Most of the rest is just running for his life, and MacGyver can do that fine too.


Of course, at that point we may as well just settle things with a fistfight between Indy and Mac which is kind of boring.

Also out of character. As I said, I think they'd get along fine.

The way to settle things is by reference to the facts of what the respective characters have done, the specifics of the texts in which they appear, rather than just going by sentiment and fuzzy memories. That's what I've been trying to do -- assess the respective characters' capabilities by reference to the texts themselves, hopefully resulting in a reasonably unbiased and objective analysis. And I just don't see any evidence that Dr. Jones has any abilities MacGyver lacks beyond archaeological expertise and the willingness to employ lethal force -- whereas MacGyver has demonstrated knowledge and ability in many fields where Dr. Jones has never been tested. That's simply the result of the respective formats of their adventures. MacGyver was a long-running weekly series about a hero who was specifically created to be able to tackle an eclectic range of problems, so naturally we've seen him in far more diverse situations, including several episodes (and one post-series TV movie) that were intentional Indiana Jones pastiches, thereby making Indy's talent set (except for the shooting) a component of MacGyver's.
 
Watching MacGyver in reruns had me thinking: a solve -all do-all hero. Almost like...Indy?

So I posit to the Community...
Who would be a better problem solver?

Both always win.
Both always have a construed sense of capability

Mac always has some sort of technology at hand...
Indy has a whip

Both get dragged through the mud.

Both when asked say "I'm making this up as I go",

My Question: Who would you rather have on your side:

MacGyver or Jones?

I vote Indy

Depends on the situation, out of the blue seat of your pants decisions, probably Indy. Like Bugs Bunny, he's a master of creating chaos and capitalizing on it. MacGyver is much better when you can have some idea of the situation your getting into. He can have the villain's lair sussed out, breached and over whelmed on the way looking over the basic floor plans and general geography. He's grand at turning everything the enemy has against him long before the fighting starts.
 
Tough call.
Both are favorties.
I got the complete McGyver on DVD last Black Friday and that is going to be my next show to watch. I'm finished all 5 season of The Batman now.

I'm going to go with INDY for this poll though.
 
http://indianajones.wikia.com/wiki/Indiana_Jones

Indy doesn't have the limited skill set that Christopher claims nor was archaeology his first major in college, Indy fought with Poncho Villa and fought WWI in the Belgian army before he as 20 years old. And in none of the four movies did Indy solve the major problem in the movie with a gun, it shoudl be noted that he was unarmed in the last half of all four of his movies.

Both characters follow the philosophy of making it up as they go along, so under any given situation they're going to win.
 
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