What's with the Uniforms?

[Bry_Sinclair]

'Marines' = combat roles. I'm tired of 'Battle Trek'. DS9 did the interstellar war thing so well that I feel it never needs to be revisited. I want to go back to Trek being about intrepid explorers that occasionally get into scuffles, not MACO/Section 31 tripe.

I have to agree with Anticitizen on this point.

DS9 did Trek war (and did it damn good, IMHO), so there is really no need to revisit that. The next Trek should be about the aftermath and hardship of war leading into the return to peaceful exploration.

Whilst I have no problem with the concept of Starfleet Marines, personally I'd prefer not to have a series that featured them heavily (and the less down about S31 the better, I think). They would have their place and duty to serve, but as we've seen time and time again, general security guards are more than capable of handling just about any situation.

It always amazes me just where what tangents some topics end up going--often having nothing to do with the OP

 

[cbp44189]

OK, since there was such an outcry on my comments, I decided to go back and re-read I am legend's post to see if I misinterpreted it.
Still looks kinda like disdain for soldiers to me.
I guess I have a different interpretation of "mercifully little" than everybody else. For this I apologize.
For the record, I don't want to see "battle trek" either, but I do enjoy seeing the harder side of Starfleet once in a while. Just as a reminder that the universe might not be as sugar and spice as we would like.

 

[cbp44189]

Oh, and to get back on topic...I like the skirts.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

We've seen mercifully little of soldiers and marines in canon Star Trek.

Don't like soldiers much?

IIRC, My Name Is Legion real life job is/was at the Pentagon. I've a feeling he likes soldiers just fine.

Was, years ago. However, none of this has anything to do with what I think of soldiers. Nor do I have any interest in what strikes cbp44189's "bad side."

Fucking tired of the kind of superficial war stories that some Trek fans seem so impressed with, though. There's virtually no truth in them about soldiering or the experience of war; they're just kids playing guns in a way that titillates a lot of fanbois.

 

[ROBE]

Miniskirts rule!

 

[cbp44189]

We've seen mercifully little of soldiers and marines in canon Star Trek.

Don't like soldiers much?

IIRC, My Name Is Legion real life job is/was at the Pentagon. I've a feeling he likes soldiers just fine.

Was, years ago. However, none of this has anything to do with what I think of soldiers. Nor do I have any interest in what strikes cbp44189's "bad side."

Fucking tired of the kind of superficial war stories that some Trek fans seem so impressed with, though. There's virtually no truth in them about soldiering or the experience of war; they're just kids playing guns in a way that titillates a lot of fanbois.

I agree with everything you just posted. To include your disinterest with my bad side.

 

[Bird of Prey]

Speaking of uniforms... Saw this SPOILER pic on twitter this morning.....

Spoiler: Uniform pic spoiler

 

[C.E. Evans]

New formal uniform, perhaps?

 

[F. King Daniel]

Cool! They look a lot like what some were wearing on the Starfleet Academy grounds in the first movie.

 

[The Wormhole]

Yeah, those do look similar to what Paul McGillion wore in XI. Nice outfit all the same though.

 

[Set Harth]

Goldeneye called, it wants its hat back.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Yeah the hats are terrible.

 

[nightwind1]

We've seen mercifully little of soldiers and marines in canon Star Trek.

Don't like soldiers much?

IIRC, My Name Is Legion real life job is/was at the Pentagon. I've a feeling he likes soldiers just fine.

Was, years ago. However, none of this has anything to do with what I think of soldiers. Nor do I have any interest in what strikes cbp44189's "bad side."

Fucking tired of the kind of superficial war stories that some Trek fans seem so impressed with, though. There's virtually no truth in them about soldiering or the experience of war; they're just kids playing guns in a way that titillates a lot of fanbois.

I'm also tired of all of these fanboy blueprints and writeups you see of dreadnaughts, and carriers, and troop transports, with a half-dozen warp nacelles, and dozens of megaphaser emplacements and quantum torpedo tubes mounted over every surface, .

 

[nightwind1]

Speaking of uniforms... Saw this SPOILER pic on twitter this morning.....

Spoiler: Uniform pic spoiler

DO YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE? [Y][N]

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Like the hats - they're vaguely reminiscent of Pike's uniform hat.

 

[Nerys Myk]

In Soviet Federation hats wear you.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Is Scotty blonde in that pic? Or at least a much lighter colour than in the 3000AD birthday video he posted from the set (where he had black hair, as he did in STXI)

I wonder if we'll be hopping ahead a few years in this movie, hence at least one of the uniform changes? If I interpret the shoulder ranks correctly, Chekov's a lieutantant now?

 

[ChristopherPike]

Spoiler: Uniform pic spoiler

That little girl's parents are being made to sweat, while they check if their papers are all in order.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Is Scotty blonde in that pic? Or at least a much lighter colour than in the 3000AD birthday video he posted from the set (where he had black hair, as he did in STXI)

Pegg frequently changes his hair color. I've seen him blond, ginger, and somewhere inbetween in the past.

I wonder if we'll be hopping ahead a few years in this movie, hence at least one of the uniform changes? If I interpret the shoulder ranks correctly, Chekov's a lieutantant now?

There's still no rank stripes on his sleeve in the photo, but Scotty's uniform retains lcdr. stripes.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Is Scotty blonde in that pic? Or at least a much lighter colour than in the 3000AD birthday video he posted from the set (where he had black hair, as he did in STXI)

Pegg frequently changes his hair color. I've seen him blond, ginger, and somewhere inbetween in the past.

Yeah, but two hair colours in one movie?
(FWIW, Scotty was blonde in the old Gold Key Trek comics)

I wonder if we'll be hopping ahead a few years in this movie, hence at least one of the uniform changes? If I interpret the shoulder ranks correctly, Chekov's a lieutantant now?

There's still no rank stripes on his sleeve in the photo, but Scotty's uniform retains lcdr. stripes.

I was talking about the stars on the epauettes. Scotty has two rows, and if each row corresponds to a sleeve stripe, Chekov should have none - if he were still an ensign. Possibly a stretch, I know.

The uniform vaguely resembles (the hat/epaulette/arrowhead insignia, at least) the TMP-era Class A Dress Uniform from the old fan-produced "Federation Reference Series", viewable at the blueprint database on www.cygnus-x1.net. STXI's USS Kobayashi Maru was based on a design from an old fan-produced blueprint pack (also viewable on the site), so it's not infeasible that they're again taking inspiration from fandom.