Young Justice-Tonight!

[Mr. Adventure]

^ Funnier than DC Nation.

 

[JD]

Were we supposed to know who Sportsmaster's new partner is? It felt like there should have been some significance to the way he kept call Superboy and Blue Beetle "meat".

Not just them, but all humans, including Manheim and his henchwoman. It suggested to me that he's an AI of some sort. And clearly we're not supposed to know who it is yet, which is why he was kept in shadow.

Ok. I just wasn't sure if maybe it would be a clue for comics fans.

 

[Christopher]

^Maybe it is, but if so, I didn't get it.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Mongul is my guess.

 

[startrekwatcher]

I'm underwhelmed by the season so far. This definitely felt like a filler episode and the intervention was not very interesting.

 

[Thestral]

I'm thinking it's another one of "the Rival;" though granted that's only because the animation for his weapon was similar to Jaime's and because I figure "the Rival" will be playing a role in the story.

Relatedly, I'm very glad to have been proven wrong on more or less all my assumptions regarding both this episode and the fates of both Wally and Artemis. Their scene in Palo Alto (Stanford eh? Impressive!) was adorable; hopefully we see more of them and what led them to hang up the suits; though to be honest they seem pretty happy, so it might've just been that they wanted to focus on each other and the "real world?" No doubt they'll get sucked back in at some point though.

I figured this would be about confronting Kaldur, but seeing the state that Roy's gotten himself into was much better... and pretty rough as well. How the mighty have fallen, considering how collected and impressive he was before the time jump; safe to say he's no long in the League? I wonder if his physical state and need for money (Weisman's mentioned in Q&As that Roy had a lot of money before the time jump) isn't supposed to just indicate how crazy he's driven himself looking for the original Speedy but also the drug problem from the comics? Really nice scene at the end with Cheshire - wonder if she's working with Sportsmaster again? Maybe this'll convince Roy to come back to the team after finding Speedy? He doesn't really seem in condition to hunt him down now - maybe they'll take some time to get him back in shape?

I tend to agree that the reason Jim Harper called him "brother" was because of the Cadmus connection, personally, and that he's a clone of an original Jim Harper.

The Superboy/Blue Beetle plot was good - nice to see him finally explain the scarab to somebody, haha. Interesting that everybody thinks Ted Kord designed it.

 

[SG-17]

Were we supposed to know who Sportsmaster's new partner is? It felt like there should have been some significance to the way he kept call Superboy and Blue Beetle "meat".

Not just them, but all humans, including Manheim and his henchwoman. It suggested to me that he's an AI of some sort. And clearly we're not supposed to know who it is yet, which is why he was kept in shadow.

Based on the sonic weapon he is obviously a member of whatever alien race helped make the Scarab.

 

[Christopher]

I'm thinking it's another one of "the Rival;" though granted that's only because the animation for his weapon was similar to Jaime's and because I figure "the Rival" will be playing a role in the story.

I think they were called "the competitor," but otherwise that's my thinking too.

I figured this would be about confronting Kaldur, but seeing the state that Roy's gotten himself into was much better... and pretty rough as well. How the mighty have fallen, considering how collected and impressive he was before the time jump; safe to say he's no long in the League? I wonder if his physical state and need for money (Weisman's mentioned in Q&As that Roy had a lot of money before the time jump) isn't supposed to just indicate how crazy he's driven himself looking for the original Speedy but also the drug problem from the comics?

Yeah, I think they were implying that he was a junkie. If he were just obsessed with finding the real Roy, I don't think he would've been that gaunt and weak or living in such squalor.

I tend to agree that the reason Jim Harper called him "brother" was because of the Cadmus connection, personally, and that he's a clone of an original Jim Harper.

I dunno... both "Jim" and Roy are voiced by Crispin Freeman and they sound pretty much the same. And Jim does look very much like an older Roy. It seems unlikely they'd be such a close match if Jim were a clone of Roy's great-uncle.

 

[timothy]

The person who killed the golem thing is that slade?

 

[sojourner]

^God I hope not. Slade is so over rated.

 

[Psylent1]

The person who killed the golem thing is that slade?

More likely The Black Beetle.

 

[nightwind1]

Yeah, quite a lot got fleshed out here, and I wish we hadn't needed to wait four weeks to get these answers. Maybe a bit too much backstory was filled in all at once, though, since I couldn't figure out who that tall brown-haired guy was standing with Wally, Nightwing, and the others until he revealed he was the former Guardian. And I think the discovery that he was a clone is something that must've happened in the 5-year gap, since I don't remember it. And I'm confused -- is Jim Harper a clone of Roy Harper or of the original Jim Harper, Roy's great-uncle? He called Roy "brother," suggesting they're clones of the same "parent." And he does have the same voice (Crispin Freeman) and a very similar face.

Good to see that Artemis is okay and that she and Wally ended up together. I wonder why they resigned from heroing, though.

Probably figured college was a full-time job already, without trying to squeeze in superheroing.

 

[Guy Gardener]

This is from the comics.

Wally left the titans to study nuclear physics at College.

Then Barry went and got himself killed.

Hell I think he was like graduating in Flash #1 when he asked to take a human heart across the country through a blizzard and through Vandal savage.

These bastards are fixated on the 80s god bless their little cotton socks.

 

[Gotham Central]

I'm thinking it's another one of "the Rival;" though granted that's only because the animation for his weapon was similar to Jaime's and because I figure "the Rival" will be playing a role in the story.

I think they were called "the competitor," but otherwise that's my thinking too.

I figured this would be about confronting Kaldur, but seeing the state that Roy's gotten himself into was much better... and pretty rough as well. How the mighty have fallen, considering how collected and impressive he was before the time jump; safe to say he's no long in the League? I wonder if his physical state and need for money (Weisman's mentioned in Q&As that Roy had a lot of money before the time jump) isn't supposed to just indicate how crazy he's driven himself looking for the original Speedy but also the drug problem from the comics?

Yeah, I think they were implying that he was a junkie. If he were just obsessed with finding the real Roy, I don't think he would've been that gaunt and weak or living in such squalor.

I tend to agree that the reason Jim Harper called him "brother" was because of the Cadmus connection, personally, and that he's a clone of an original Jim Harper.

I dunno... both "Jim" and Roy are voiced by Crispin Freeman and they sound pretty much the same. And Jim does look very much like an older Roy. It seems unlikely they'd be such a close match if Jim were a clone of Roy's great-uncle.

When Connor went back to Cadmus, didn't Dubilex refer to him as "brother?"

 

[Christopher]

^Well, I checked the Young Justice Wiki, and apparently in "Agendas" Guardian revealed that he was Red Arrow's uncle (not great-uncle as in the comics). I'd forgotten that. Still, the resemblance is so great that I kind of have to wonder if there's a deeper secret, considering that they are clones and that Jim doesn't know his real origins.

 

[shivkala]

And I think the discovery that he was a clone is something that must've happened in the 5-year gap, since I don't remember it. And I'm confused -- is Jim Harper a clone of Roy Harper or of the original Jim Harper, Roy's great-uncle? He called Roy "brother," suggesting they're clones of the same "parent." And he does have the same voice (Crispin Freeman) and a very similar face.

^Well, I checked the Young Justice Wiki, and apparently in "Agendas" Guardian revealed that he was Red Arrow's uncle (not great-uncle as in the comics). I'd forgotten that. Still, the resemblance is so great that I kind of have to wonder if there's a deeper secret, considering that they are clones and that Jim doesn't know his real origins.

Well, as we know from last week, they don't actively try to hide the voices, at least when they want use to make a connection. My 8 year old son figured out "Black Manta" was Kaldur from the voice. So, perhaps there is something to the fact that they are using the same voice actor.

I went back into this thread, because I knew we discussed Roy and Jim's relationship earlier, but it looks like you beat me to the punch.

Off-topic, but, when hearing Aqualad's real name, am I the only one who thinks of this:

I let out a laugh when you heard a cat meowing outside of Roy's "apartment." I couldn't explain to my kids why I was laughing, though. I can't help but think it was intentional.

 

[Hound of UIster]

The person who killed the golem thing is that slade?

More likely The Black Beetle.

Or one of the Reach's warrior caste enforcers.

 

[Christopher]

Off-topic, but, when hearing Aqualad's real name, am I the only one who thinks of this:

I don't know what that is.

 

[sojourner]

I think it was a grocery store chain back in the day.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Off-topic, but, when hearing Aqualad's real name, am I the only one who thinks of this:

Yes, apparently you are.