Recreating the model was never an issue. We obviously have enough information for a CG modeler to build a more than acceptable screen-ready version, especially since it would have to be done anyway for HD, and the recreated version would be canonical as well if used onscreen. It wouldn't be cost-effective for a CG vendor to seek out the original model, unless Alex Jaeger/Larry Nemecek do know the right person and that person can supply the original model quickly. This is more about fans who are interested in getting it 100% right, given the virtually unlimited time available to them.
Norway-Class Appreciation
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I like the Norway class, kinda wished we had seen more of it during the war. Too bad somehow the CGI went missing.
Though I do think the top view did look like something out of an Egyptian tomb.
Though I do think the top view did look like something out of an Egyptian tomb.
Never liked it, still don't. Of all the ships created for the FC batle scene, Akira and Sabre are the only ones I like. Instead of Steamrunner and Norway, I wish they would have used CGI models of ships we are already familiar with.
I appreciated it as an effort to get away from deisgns that were at least 80 years old by the TNG time frame. I'm all for extended lifespans for Starfleet ships, but having half of any given CGI fleet in DS9 be made up of Excelsior and Miranda class ships was unsatisfying to this particular nerd...
It would have been nice to see stuff like New Orleans, Niagra, Freedom, etc. as they are more recent designs, but I also can see the producers specifically asking for designs that don't at all resemble the classic round saucer + cigar + two nacelle design quickly associated with the Enterprise.
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It would have been nice to see stuff like New Orleans, Niagra, Freedom, etc. as they are more recent designs, but I also can see the producers specifically asking for designs that don't at all resemble the classic round saucer + cigar + two nacelle design quickly associated with the Enterprise.
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True, but in that brief scene, could you identify different ship classes in the movie theater in those brief seconds? Plus, if they wanted to have new classes, then why the hell did the scene include a Miranda class ship!?!
What are the rail-looking things on the top of the Norway nacelles? Do the nacelles slide back and forth similar to how Intrepid nacelles rotate up and down?
Because its the Ford truck of Starfleet, they get everywhere and do everything
Why else would they keep the class going if its wasn't up to the job?
Point being, that NONE of them could be easily mistaken for the Enterprise-E with the configurations we saw, no matter how tiny they were or fast they were moving. They didn't look like the hero ship, which is usually what the producers want to avoid. You'll note we didn't see any Excelsiors, Ambassadors or Galaxy class ships in the mix.
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It was unsatisfying to this nerd too.
I could understand why those designs were made into CGI, since they had the physical models to scan. But why have so darn many of them? Besides the FC ships and the GCS, these two classes made up the bulk of every DS9 fleet scene we saw. Again, it was probably easier for them to just scan the physical models they had instead of building new CGI models of the New Orleans and Niagara from scratch. Plus, I always got the feeling that even though the BoBW kitbashes are technically canon, their use in anything other than that one episode was frowned upon.
Since we know virtually nothing about the ship, that question will probably never be answered. I suppose someone could contact Alex Jaeger and ask him, but I'd bet even he probably wouldn't know.
Because its the Ford truck of Starfleet, they get everywhere and do everything
Why else would they keep the class going if its wasn't up to the job?
Unfortunately, there's no good real-world explanation as to why Starfleet would keep producing an outdated design while at the same time producing more advanced designs. It makes no sense (and this applies to the Oberth class as well).
This conundrum exists because the producers of TNG were forced to re-use the movie models because they didn't have the foresight to build other new Starfleet ship models when TNG was being produced (and they also didn't want to spend money building new models if the show were to be cancelled after the first season). The only "new" models built for the show were the Constellation, Ambassador and Nebula classes, and only the latter survived long enough to be converted into a CGI model for DS9. But because the Excelsior and Miranda models were feature-film-quality, and the Nebula was only television-quality, we saw much more of the former two ships in the battle scenes.
That was exactly the rationale behind the designs. They didn't want them to look anything like the Enterprise because they didn't want to confuse the audience.
The Norway is a funky looking ship.
I drew this MSD: http://lcarsgfx.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/norway-or-no-way/
It has a lot less problems in its design that say the Steamrunner class.
I drew this MSD: http://lcarsgfx.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/norway-or-no-way/
It has a lot less problems in its design that say the Steamrunner class.
I didn't have any manjor issues with the Intrepid-Class, they were trying to make a compact and small hero-ship. The Oberth-Class though is just very impractical, and all they needed to do to fix it was to add a middle pylon so the design made a little more sense.
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