Bad Odo

[Photon]

Could you have bought Odo really becoming a member of the Dominion and sharing power w/the FSS? Just say for shits and giggles, Odo decides to stay on the FHW after The Search and became more and more suspicious of solids eventually lending some secrets and helping the Dominion gain a sizable foot hold in the AQ.

Later, he comes to his senses and tries to come back and fight is one time friends.

 

[Seven of Five]

That would have been a very interesting scenario, and one I would have perhaps enjoyed seeing in a what-if kind of way. I could see Sisko and Kira hunting down their old friend in season seven.

Having already seen the series in its entirity though, I would miss Rene Auberjonois and Odo a hell of a lot. He was an integral part of DS9 and it would be a shame to lose that.

 

[sonak]

yes I could buy that. Odo had an authoritarian streak, plus was driven in the early seasons by a desire to re-connect with his people. I could see him joining them while attempting to be a moderate force from within.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

He almost went that route while DS9 was under Cardassian-Dominion administration...and in my opinion was never adequately punished for his acts of treason during that arc. That would've been an appropriate launching point for the kind of arc you describe, had the writers really run with the full implications of Odo committing treason. Really he should've been shot dead for what he did.

 

[JediKnightButler]

He almost went that route while DS9 was under Cardassian-Dominion administration...and in my opinion was never adequately punished for his acts of treason during that arc. That would've been an appropriate launching point for the kind of arc you describe, had the writers really run with the full implications of Odo committing treason. Really he should've been shot dead for what he did.

It would've been nice to see some repercussions from Odo's actions during that time period. I wouldn't say that he actively committed "treason" against the Federation or even sided with the Dominion per se but he clearly got distracted by the female founder and it lead to Rom being captured and very nearly cost the AQ the war. I haven't really seen any S6 eps past "Sacrifice of Angels". Did everything basically seem to be right back to normal between Odo and Kira after SOA or was there some lingering issues between them afterwards?

 

[DonIago]

Odo and Kira have an off-screen discussion in a closet during Dax's bachelorette party and apparently reconcile.

More information is available in the Dominion installment of the "Worlds of Deep Space Nine" series.

I'm hard-pressed to say whether it's lame or amusingly cheeky that the show dealt with it that way.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I could have bought the idea of Odo joining the Dominion after linking with the Female Founder. We really have no idea about changeling perceptions or mentality. It's possible that they only have one mind, in a sense.

Odo was cut off from what's normal for his species, and when he rejoined the hive mind, he'd have no more individuality than a Borg. Except in his case, it's what's natural for his species.

Of course I wouldn't want it to be that simplistic. There would need to be some Odo left in his brain, struggling to break free, or else it would be a plotline to nowhere.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Considering that he already KNEW he would be unable to withhold information or to avoid being influenced by the Female Changeling, for Odo to even put himself in that position during a time of war was treasonous by definition. Even that right there should've been a death offense--but then to actively commit treason when Rom was out there laying his life on the line...yeah, he shouldn't have been allowed to live. Or if he was, he should've been put in a maximum security facility. There is simply no excusing it.

 

[Tora Ziyal]

A shapeshifter in prison... That would have to be one heck of a super-max prison!

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Yep. Probably force fields all around.

 

[DonIago]

Exactly who was Odo committing treason against? He wasn't a Federation citizen and the Bajorans had a treaty with the Dominion.

 

[Photon]

Exactly who was Odo committing treason against? He wasn't a Federation citizen and the Bajorans had a treaty with the Dominion.

Nice catch, but that woulda been a heck of an episode. Odo on trial for treason.
Which begs the question, does the Feds/SF have the death penalty for treason?

 

[cml898]

Strictly looking at the point in time of "The Search" I could see an alternate universe story where Odo had decided to stay with the Dominion. He was pretty much an outsider early in the series with limited emotional ties to his crewmates. I think Kira was the only reason he stayed so maybe an AU where they weren't quite as close he easily could have been swayed to the other side.

What I wouldn't buy is the part of him then coming to his senses. With his limited attatchment to the crew of DS9 I think if he had switched sides at that point there would have been no coming back.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Exactly who was Odo committing treason against? He wasn't a Federation citizen and the Bajorans had a treaty with the Dominion.

He committed treason against the resistance, against his friends, and against his commanding officer (regardless of whether Sisko was present, Sisko IS his commanding officer).

And even if a court of law wouldn't have tried him, I think it would've been most in character for Kira to shoot him. She'd regret it later, perhaps, but she is not the kind of person who accepts betrayal. I think it would've been much more in character for her to do that, in addition to the fact that Odo deserved it.

(In most cases I like the character--but that act crossed the Moral Event Horizon and I don't think the writers really thought that fact through.)

 

[DonIago]

To say Kira might have shot him is one thing, but Treason is a legal term which in this case seems to be being misused. If anything, it was the resistance that was committing treason.

Once the Federation was ordered off DS9...and they were, Kira specifically told Sisko to leave the station...Sisko was no longer Odo's commanding officer.

 

[sonak]

At the very least, we should have seen some kind of mistrust and resentment from Rom. Odo totally betrayed him and I don't think that's ever brought up.

 

[Photon]

At the very least, we should have seen some kind of mistrust and resentment from Rom. Odo totally betrayed him and I don't think that's ever brought up.

Bad writing that Odo did not suffer any repercussions for his acts.

I would have at least like to seen him seriously ostracized by the crew

 

[DonIago]

Maybe nobody really brought it up in the "he should be disciplined" sense? Kira seemed disinclined to talk about it at least. It may be that Odo talked to the people he'd specifically wronged and they came to some sort of understanding.

 

[DS9 Gal AZ]

Didn't they have the closet cop-out scene where Kira and Odo talked about the whole thing (not that we actually got to hear the conversation, of course)? You know, the episode with Jadzia and Worf's wedding? That's the closest we got to any kind of reprecussions or resolution.

 

[DonIago]

...I mentioned that several posts back I believe...