I think you meant to emphasize the "not" part not the "did". Anyway, you haven't given your opinion on season 3, how come?
The third season of Voyager kicks heavy duty ass
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I think you meant to emphasize the "not" part not the "did". Anyway, you haven't given your opinion on season 3, how come?
I really like "Future's End", mostly because of the villain.
Oh he was very interesting! It was great seeing him coming to grips with what Voyager was and how he had something so much more.
Where's The Dominion when you need him? To kick some sense into this thread.......gushing over season 3 of all seasons 
To adapt a phrase from another sci-fi franchise "The mediocrity is strong with this one!"
To adapt a phrase from another sci-fi franchise "The mediocrity is strong with this one!"
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YWF Nick is watching this series through for the first time. He has not yet reached your depths of jaded disgust. Be patient, I'm sure he'll be vomiting on something soon enough.
I remember he vomiting stage.
good times.
the drowning in vomit stage was scary.
But then a season later i really couldn't tell the difference between vomit and custard.
plain sailing.
But I don't think regular people got it the next season when I tried to sell my persona scent, and it was 99 percent vomit.
I took a bath on that one financially.
good times.
the drowning in vomit stage was scary.
But then a season later i really couldn't tell the difference between vomit and custard.
plain sailing.
But I don't think regular people got it the next season when I tried to sell my persona scent, and it was 99 percent vomit.
I took a bath on that one financially.
It is highly unlikely that I will ever be disgusted by this season. I judge people, not TV shows
Is that a joke? If it isn't, it doesn't make any sense. Its called having a critical eye and knowing what's good/makes sense and what isn't good and is nonsensical garbage.
IT IS ALL WONDERFUL.
Or to quote that wonderful rock band from the 60's, Small Faces:
"It's all too beautiful!"
(Rock on in heaven, Steve Marriott and Ronnie Lane.)
Its not all garbage but I think I've made my reasons clear in one of my previous posts for why its the worst season.
Why it is the worst season in your opinion, not why it is the worst season.
Flashback - DS9 does a loving tribute to TOS using cutting edge technology, Voyager does some technobabble shit featuring an alien parasite in Tuvok's brain
Point being?
I thought the episode was fine. Standalone episode that made a bit of a tribute to ST VI.
Just what exactly was supposed to be funny in this episode?
The Ferengi acted more or less like they did in Ds9, except they also had a serious moment in the transporter room. The rest of the episode was fine if you ask me... though reaction time from the crew itself to get to the Wormhole was questionable to say the least (of course, necessary to keep them in the DQ, but I think the writers could have handled it better).
Other than that, I actually found the Ferengi tolerable in this episode as opposed in majority of DS9 and the parody that was made out of them.
You mean like many others in other Trek shows?
At least in Voyager it's more or less expected not to see them again since they were in their space briefly and on their way back to the A.Q.
I don't know about you, but I liked the episode in question.
I also had a beef with 'computer age' being the byproduct of time-travel, but hey, it's entirely possible that things in that world would have happened like they did in ours too regardless.
What 'shouldn't have happened' is not up to Janeway or Chakotay to decide because they mostly saw this period as primitive (a bit biased).
That's a bit ignorant of you to say. The Q 'boasted' about being 'all powerful' and all, but even Picard had the sensibility to see through that little fiasco.
Much more advanced, oh yes, with probably highly evolved abilities even, but 'all powerful'?
Give me a break.
Even Quinn mentioned that they had their limitations that that the Q are effectively much more 'advanced' than the Federation (just like to numerous primitive cultures the Feds seem all powerful, when they are not).
The Q used weapons to hurt each other... and humans were using their weapons to accomplish the threatening.
Pretty simple. I liked how Voyager reinforcing the premise of the Q being nothing more than just more of an unknown. Doesn't mean they are 'all powerful' though. They love to boast, and they can do things the Feds probably can't even fathom just yet, but even the Q were afraid of what Humanity could achieve.
Genesis? Similarities exist indeed, but I liked Macrocosm.
I see... and the reason why an episode cannot be centered around the main character and give us insight into her psyche?
Again, I liked the episode in question.
I watched it just fine and felt clean afterwards.
Seriously, I see no problem with the episode at large. It was even enjoyable to a degree. Plus it foreshadows Tom and Torres.
I liked it. Gave Neelix proper screen-time that also portrayed him as more than just a comic relief - much like the episode with Jetrel.
Was a bit dull in certain areas, but I figured it was fine.
Point being? The Doctor was playing with his own subroutines without any help from Torres and managed to mess things up.
Granted I thought Picardo over-acted his evilness in a bit of a comedic way at certain parts, but other than that, it was ok.
Well, I will give you that they dropped the ball on Kes and Neelix breakup without ever addressing it properly (especially when it happened in the same episode that Kiernan was in control of her body).
I enjoyed Season 3 overall.
I thought DS9's quality went DOWN after season 2 and 3 - mostly saw it as a bore-fest (Even with the Dominion and the idiot writers who overtly simplified numerous things and threw a lot of others out the window because they wanted to 'shake things up' - there are ways to do that without discarding most of what makes Trek what it is).
I think this episode really added to the Ferengi. I was quite taken aback that profit meant so much to them on a spiritual level that they were willing to give up their home, family, planet, quadrant.. everything familiar, in exchange for it. And it's all just the raw materials too, it's not like they were living it up on Risa. The mound of wealth in itself was what brought them joy.
I don't feel the need to add "in my opinion" after everything, since I'm saying it, its pretty obvious its my opinion
Except it wasn't fine, it didn't really have any proper connection to TOS. I mean Janeway goes in Tuvok's brain and then Sulu can see her and she's all shocked......like why? Its all just technobabble mind-meld nonsense taking place in Tuvok's brain! And the whole plot revolves around some alien parasite? WTF. That's just *bad*
"False Profits" is supposed to be a comedic episode - it wasn't funny so it failed.
Aliens of the week are fine if they're involved in some plot or issue........but faceless aliens that present a "threat" to the crew, how bland! The B plot did redeem it somewhat however.
What on earth are you talking about? The whole civil war was meant to be a comprehensible and extremely simplified representation of the war the Q were fighting - it wasn't an actual war. But then at the end we get Tom putting a gun to a Q and the Q surrenders. That's just obviously ridiculous. You can't say what you're seeing is simply a very simple representation of a war going on between the Q.....and then at the end of the episode drop that and have a standoff between our human characters and the Q. Its incongruous, illogical and sloppily written.
It was shallow - look at the episodes TNG was doing in their third season and that was still fairly new Star Trek.
Season 3 Episode 12 of TNG was an episode exploring the issues of terorrism, the equivalent episode in Voyager was someone running around in a sweaty shirt fighting CGi aliens.
Wow, just wow.
What you've said there does not relate to what I said. Coda is bad because its a pointless mishmash of sci-fi elements. We have random time loops for apparently no other reason than Jeri Taylor saying (oh time loops are cool, let's add some of them in) and Janeway dying multiple times (once again because Taylor thought "Let's kill Janeway, that's cool!"). Its a terrible mess of an episode that has an awful structure wherein the main story of the episode does not begin until 20 minutes in - Janeway dealing with the possibility of her dying. That's 20 minutes of potential insight into Janeway's "psyche" wasted on completely shallow, pointless sci-fi nonsense. And even when we do get past that 20 minutes, we watch "emotional" scenes where the crew mourn Janeway.....except none of its even real! Could a more pointless episode POSSIBLY exist? At least "A Night in Sickbay" showed Archer's devotion to his dog...........what did "Coda" show? That Janeway thinks so highly of herself that she fantasizes about her crew giving long winded speeches about how great she was?
I thought it was lame. "B'Ellana gets the pon farr and gets all sweaty" and then there's an uber lame fistfight at the end that magically solved all the problems
That episode was dull, dull, dull.
Fine if your aim is to make an incredibly contrived, uninteresting and low-ambition episode of Trek.
It was jut a mediocre to poor episode. I wonder if there's any episode YOU don't like, you certainly seem to be lacking a critical eye and willing to accept almost anything you're fed when watching this show.
Yes but was it good? Did it have consistently well written episodes? I'd say it was pretty clear that it didn't. Stuff like "False Profits", "Darkling", "Favorite Son" and "Rise" would be seen as bottom of the barrel junk if they'd been TNG episodes, and they already are rated very low by the vast majority of review sites you find online.
Season 3 just had far too many bad and mediocre episodes and it was totally meandering and disjointed. Clearly the producers knew it, since the writing and technical aspects all improved fairly dramatically near the end of season 3 and into season 4 and beyond.
Go easy on You Will Fail, I'm pretty sure he's autistic
'in my opinion'
I'm autistic because I don't think season 3 of Voyager is particularly good?
O.O
There's a lot of undiagnosed autistics out there!
O.O
There's a lot of undiagnosed autistics out there!
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