That doesn't show any understanding at all of HBO's business model or marketing approach. Having Hoffman starring in this thing was worth a great deal to them and they don't have a ready replacement that's nearly equivalent.
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Sigh. PETA is completely full of shit, though. They're against any use of animals for any reason. Nothing they say or do should be taken seriously.
No doubt bad publicity is a factor. No doubt unsatisfactory ratings are a factor.
But it seems to me that these are not just horses from Aunt Nellie's little horsefarm six miles up Twelvepole Creek hollow. Aren't horses passing for thoroughbred racehorses themselves most likely thoroughbred racehorses that didn't make the cut? Which means a dead horse is a big expense, and a herd of dead horses makes you uninsurable. If a crime caper movie lost some diamonds, would anyone be surprised if that production got shut down?
But it seems to me that these are not just horses from Aunt Nellie's little horsefarm six miles up Twelvepole Creek hollow. Aren't horses passing for thoroughbred racehorses themselves most likely thoroughbred racehorses that didn't make the cut? Which means a dead horse is a big expense, and a herd of dead horses makes you uninsurable. If a crime caper movie lost some diamonds, would anyone be surprised if that production got shut down?
That's silly because a crime-caper movie doesn't need to use real-diamonds to tell their story. A movie about racing horses might need to use real racing horses to present a realistic story and to be accurate to the subject matter. (Though I suspect most people wouldn't know the difference and a horse from Uncle Jim's Nag Farm and Glue Factory would have worked just as well.)
Would you be fine if it were dogs? A show loses a few dogs to accidents over the course of a season. Would that be acceptable losses? I think the American Public would freak out if a show kept losing dogs to accidents.
One accident, sure. But THREE horses have died. What the fuck? I'm not a PETA person, but, seriously...
Did Cowboys and Aliens lose any horses? True Grit? What is going on?
Horses die so we can be entertained by a TV show.
Meh, whatever?
That seems kind of callous to me. You ever been around horses? Ever had a pet that you loved?
There was a Doctor who audio recently where a villain from the world of fiction escaped and he really, really didn't like it when the "real" people pointed out the holes in his origin and character unitl he got so furious that he murdered his creator who's last owrds were "Why? Why are you doing this to me?" and this Ming the Merciless wannabe replies "You should have written me better."
Over a fucking horse? Ridiculous. Now I'm glad I never watched this.
So says the person with the Pony avatar...
It was THREE fucking horses by the way.
Three horses does sound extreme but, I dunno, the particulars of what happened here and caused their deaths, I can only assume they were meeting the legal requirements/restrictions when it comes to animals working in a production.
If it were dogs I'd feel the same way, and I love dogs and have had them as pets and wouldn't abuse one in the slightest. But if dogs I don't know where dying in the production of a show (as part of accidents) then I don't really think I would care, I just don't apply that much love and care to animals I have no personal stake in.
In the end, they were horses, I don't see that as any great loss to society that some died. If they were being killed for the sole purpose of entertainment, sure, that's a whole other issue. But it seems as if they died during the normal production of a show due to injury (which for horses can be debilitating necessitating being put down.)
There's other horses out there.
If it were dogs I'd feel the same way, and I love dogs and have had them as pets and wouldn't abuse one in the slightest. But if dogs I don't know where dying in the production of a show (as part of accidents) then I don't really think I would care, I just don't apply that much love and care to animals I have no personal stake in.
In the end, they were horses, I don't see that as any great loss to society that some died. If they were being killed for the sole purpose of entertainment, sure, that's a whole other issue. But it seems as if they died during the normal production of a show due to injury (which for horses can be debilitating necessitating being put down.)
There's other horses out there.
Watching Chakotay and Harry Kim in Voyager wasn't more engaging than watching three dead horses.
Easy as pie for us non-animals to say that. We have vocal chords and more advanced IQs. Humans are easily replaceable too. There are lots more humans out there.
Dogs and horses in particular, and to a different degree cats and trained birds, demonstrate sentient levels of affection and often loyalty. I'm convinced they, too, have souls, whether we have dominion over them or not. You don't have to own one or have a stake in one to feel that way.
''Acceptable losses?'' When SPFX can replicate virtually any situation, why would three fatalities in a rapid row be remotely acceptable?
It's still good to cross paths with you again, Trekker.....if you are the Trekker from Deck One, which I abandoned in disgust earlier this year.
Dogs and horses in particular, and to a different degree cats and trained birds, demonstrate sentient levels of affection and often loyalty. I'm convinced they, too, have souls, whether we have dominion over them or not. You don't have to own one or have a stake in one to feel that way.
''Acceptable losses?'' When SPFX can replicate virtually any situation, why would three fatalities in a rapid row be remotely acceptable?
It's still good to cross paths with you again, Trekker.....if you are the Trekker from Deck One, which I abandoned in disgust earlier this year.
It was THREE fucking horses by the way.
Are horses into that shit? Pervs.
I don't even know what that is.
And, yet, the racing industry thrives and I suspect polo sees similar numbers.
Even if that's true - I have no idea how it's doing these days - it definitely isn't looking for the bulk of its funding from the sort of hyper-sensitive, highly-educated people that keep HBO in business.
^^^What an extraordinary statement. I have no idea what hypereducated could even mean. But the successful programming on HBO relies far more on blatant sex and violence and salty language that can't be put on advertiser supported networks. What could that have to do with hypersensitivity?
I get the distinct impression that the racing "industry" has more money put into it than comes out of it. And that many owners are motivated more by prestige. Besides, social networking can sometimes be leveraged into pecuniary compensation. The people in the stands are not the only gamblers.
I get the distinct impression that the racing "industry" has more money put into it than comes out of it. And that many owners are motivated more by prestige. Besides, social networking can sometimes be leveraged into pecuniary compensation. The people in the stands are not the only gamblers.
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